[KevCarter]

I have been trying to figure out the elbow plane, turned shoulder plane, pp#3 and how Brian Gay swings. Seems like every thread I have read turns into an elbow vs turned shoulder argument. Not interested in that; I am just trying to figure out what is actually happening with Brian. I understand Brian sets up on the elbow forearm plane at address. Does he then try to swing on the elbow plane? Is he trying to take pp#3 and the sweet spot down the elbow plane to impact? OR Does he try and shift to the turned shoulder and then back to the elbow going back down? Seems confusing because in the premium video with Brian, Yoda describes the shoulder turning back to "the plane" as he shows dowels going up from the forearm. Is Yoda demonstrating turning the shoulders to the shoulder plane while keeping the hands and pp#3 on the elbow plane? Just trying to make sure. Thanks.

GREAT QUESTION!

I am going to give you my thoughts, but they may not be correct. I hope YODA jumps in...

I think that by setting up at address with his left wrist level, and his right forearm higher than most, on plane, that Brian Gay "feels" as though he is swinging on the turned shoulder plane throughout the entire swing, striving for ZERO plane shift. The possibly unatainable holy grail.

In reality, if you draw lines, he moves very slightly from somewhere between the elbow and TSP, to TSP, and back to that somewhere between slot on the downstroke. The other thing I think is extremely important in his stroke is how well he keeps his head centered in the tripod. Watching him on the range from caddy view, nobody does it better! It's beautiful IMHO.

As I said, please take this response with a grain of salt...

Kevin