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Wade . . . Good question . . . essentially you want your shoulders to turn in a circle. You set your "machine" up to what angle you want your shoulders to turn on but they should turn in a circle . . . that is the centered pivot concept.

Great post. But are you describing a Rotated Shoulder Turn here? Wouldnt a Standard Shoulder Turn, flat back and On Plane going down look like a spiral, reverse "7" when viewed from DTL? It could have a centered pivot center or head as well could it not?

On the other hand a spiral when seen in plan view can look like a circle. Homer was in tough when he chose to describe geometry using mainly words. It gets confusing. Or is it just me?