Shoulder Turn Throw versus the Wrist Throw

[Daryl]

what do you think of using this procedure as a swinger? Advisable, or barking up the wrong tree?

Swingers:
The Shoulder Throw occurs at Release, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.

Learn Hip Action. Learn how the Hips can Throw the Right Shoulder at Release. It will feel like you're taking your Right Shoulder a very long way down the Plane until release occurs seemingly automatically. Your Left Arm will only move a few inches before Impact which means that it's still accelerating away from the chest toward both arms straight. The Right Elbow is straightening but still has a lot of bend at Impact. Therefore, the Hands are still 12" to the Right of your Belt Buckle at Impact. The Power Package is Accelerating through Impact till both arms straight.

[Delaware Golf]

Swingers:
The Shoulder Throw occurs at Release, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.

Learn Hip Action. Learn how the Hips can Throw the Right Shoulder at Release. It will feel like you're taking your Right Shoulder a very long way down the Plane until release occurs seemingly automatically. Your Left Arm will only move a few inches before Impact which means that it's still accelerating away from the chest toward both arms straight. The Right Elbow is straightening but still has a lot of bend at Impact. Therefore, the Hands are still 12" to the Right of your Belt Buckle at Impact. The Power Package is Accelerating through Impact till both arms straight.

Hmmmm...I went to the TGM website...didn't see any authorized instructors with the first name Daryl from Illinois. What AI did you work with that taught you how to execute the triggers? I studied with an AI who spent a lot of time with Homer and his explanation of how to execute the triggers does not come close to your interpretation. Interesting!!!

DG

[Daryl]

Hmmmm...I went to the TGM website...didn't see any authorized instructors with the first name Daryl from Illinois. What AI did you work with that taught you how to execute the triggers? I studied with an AI who spent a lot of time with Homer and his explanation of how to execute the triggers does not come close to your interpretation. Interesting!!!

DG

Dear DG,

We can be Gentlemanly about this. Put up your dukes.

I don't have an "AI" Degree. Where do you get them? What do they cost? What would I do with one? I forget; is that a 5 day course or 10 days?

I also know that your AI spent a lot of time with Homer.

Tell me something I don't already know. "Hit me with your best shot".

[gmbtempe]

Swingers:
The Shoulder Throw occurs at Release, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.

Learn Hip Action. Learn how the Hips can Throw the Right Shoulder at Release. It will feel like you're taking your Right Shoulder a very long way down the Plane until release occurs seemingly automatically. Your Left Arm will only move a few inches before Impact which means that it's still accelerating away from the chest toward both arms straight. The Right Elbow is straightening but still has a lot of bend at Impact. Therefore, the Hands are still 12" to the Right of your Belt Buckle at Impact. The Power Package is Accelerating through Impact till both arms straight.

This is a video on hip movement, Steve Bishop is a local teacher in my area and he did this video talking about the hips and their movement in leading the right shoulder.

Is this anything close to what you are talking about?

[Daryl]

This is a video on hip movement, Steve Bishop is a local teacher in my area and he did this video talking about the hips and their movement in leading the right shoulder.

Is this anything close to what you are talking about?

No. Also, I don't agree with his directional movement and to make matters worse, his idea of a Hip Slide is dropping the Head over his right foot. I don't agree with that either. And, pushing off with the Right Foot? No.

I thought the video was above average production quality. Actually, I like the indoors presentation. Good job.

[gmbtempe]

Thx, I want to learn the hip action just not sure where to begin.

[okie]

Learn to isolate the hip motion using start down waggles. No hip shift...no axis tilting...no on-plane right shoulder...no on plane anything!

[12 piece bucket]

Thx, I want to learn the hip action just not sure where to begin.

If you live in a house with walls . . . best place to start is there . . . first with your fo'head on a wall then with your buttcheekz on a wall . . . Learn what it feels like to make a pivot with your mellon staying centered . . . once you got that then put your ass up on the wall. Learn what it feels like to make a backswing with your appropriate cheek (right cheek, both cheeks, left cheek). . . learn to slide your ass left down the wall from the top. This is a HUGE piece of not dynamically shifting the plane angle and disrupting your #3 angle thru the ball.

After you get a feel for that leave your 4 walls and get a video camera and make sure that your behind is back and your head ain't bobbing around like a cork fishin' for carp when you swing.

If you do the hipslide right . . . you'll notice that your right heal will lead the right toe . . . kinda like you were gonna lay the inside of your right ankle on the ground. . . the hips going forward will straighten out your right leg . . . if you just spin your hips (roundhouse) your right heal will pop up early and your right foot action will look like you were putting out a cigarette or squasing a roach or brushing Mike O's tooth with your right toes . . .

This . . .









Not this . . .









Check the knee action . . . look how the hips going forward straightens out the right leg and gets it leaning toward the target . . . BEAUTIFUL STUFF . . .

[gmbtempe]

Thanks for the help, some of the text got cutoff with the pictures,

so the key seems to be keeping that head centered, yet moving the hips in the right direction to get the right leg in the position closer to Nicklaus, Hogan and Blake (ha, bet Lynn likes being int that group ).

Here is a photo of my swing at impact:

[Daryl]

Why is your left Hip 6 inches past your Left Foot. Look at Hogan and Yoda in the above pictures. Draw a vertical line from their left foot inside ankle bone and stop above their left Hips. Notice that their Left Hip does not pass this line.

The Second alignment to review is the distance their hands are to the Right of the Center of their Torsos. Look at the Lower Picture side by side comparison. Notice how Hogan and Yoda have Rotated their Hips open to the Target. Their Hips are "Pulling and Pushing" their Shoulder Turns. Your Hips are leading only. Your long lateral Slide has prevented your Hips from Rotating Farther. Your Hips have slid away from you and your Shoulder Turn is Slowing.

Look how far backwards Hogan and Yoda have moved their Left Hip. Notice the Bend in the Left Leg and the Direction that the Left Thigh and Knee are pointing. They have successfully performed a slight Lateral Slide and Rotated around their Center.

Widen your Stance.