[KevCarter]

dolly pardon? "gutter" and P8". I w/ you on the shaft going back up plane w/ FLW, but the other terms Im lost.

The gutter is the plane line. Picture a roof as the plane, it's gutter is the plane line.

P8 is just right forearm parallel to the ground.
P8 is a position, we don't teach positions, we teach alignments, but I wanted you to get the picture of the shaft getting back up the plane after follow through and into the finish.

Sorry sasquatch_mn, I get a little too excited for typing. Much easier to explain and show one on one than with text.

Kevin