[Daryl]

I wasnt referring to a mere turn of the rigth hip out of the way or a pre set but an actual slight lateral bump of the hips as a first move going back with a delayed turn even. I dont do it, but believe this to be the Hula Hula, Standard Hip Action, Luke and others employ.

It makes sense that Luke and others Hitters bump to the Right because it's the precise path that an Extensor Action Take-away moves their Left Hand. By having their Hands Forward Pressed, Extensor Action Force moves them Straight to the Right (parallel) with the Plane-Line which creates the "Sawing" motion of the Right Elbow. So, for Hitters, bumping the Hip is with-in their Alignment 'protocol' and may be a very correct Start-Up Trigger to remind the Right Deltoids muscle of its direction.

Love your thing about Swingers leaving the right elbow in place.

I stole it from Homer. I can't take credit. This is the Fun Part about Geometry and Alignments. One Alignment LOOKS different when in a different Location.

Swingers need to Fan the Right Forearm with a Stationary Elbow to have it become "Angled-to-the-right-Aligned" (Spayed to the Right) to their Shoulders when the Right Elbow begins to raise away from their side at Start-up. This Alignment, at the Top of their Swings, Locates their Elbows pointing more Downward to be Directly behind and support the Secondary Lever (Right Forearm more up and down). Hitters, on the other hand, have Right Elbows that begin to raise when the Right Forearm is perpendicular to their shoulders so that at the Top of the Swing, their Elbows point Backwards Slightly (Right Forearm at a 45 degree Angle) and their #3 Pressure point can Support the Primary Lever.

One day I was playing with these alignments after viewing a Yoda video where he Tilts the "Wedges" at the Top of the Swing, to demonstrate Hitters Elbow Location -vs- Swingers Elbow Location. It eventually dawned on me that these alignments are so different that something must be causing them. I Traced these Alignments back to the Angle of the Right Forearm at the Time when the Right Elbow Leaves and Raises from the Side during Start-up.

It was an INVALUABLE lesson because I learned that with a Shoulder, or Torso Turn Take-away, the Golfer needs to manipulate the Elbow to Locate these Alignments and at best, it could only be guesswork. It's also extra motion and bla, bla, bla. Th Extensor Action Take-away from correctly Set Up Hitters and Swingers, precisely establishes these Alignments at the End of Start-up. In other words, these are the same Alignments of the Power Package at the End of Start-up BEING SEEN in a different Location.

Are you saying Hitters are Tortured? How rude. This was a surprise for me too when I first heard it. The Green Guy may have to wade in here but it does reconcile some conflicting concepts for me. Like how does the grip end stay in front of the body in start up etc. You know the grip end in the belly button drill vs a quick move of the left arm across the chest like in an actively fanning right arm in startup with a quiet pivot. With the Pivot taking care of the Fanning the Right arm need only do the pickup, bending. Bottom line is you dont want to freeze your pivot in startup, Hitting or Swinging.

Not that they are Tortured, but "being Tortured" The Green man can put his feet up and relax, he's going to have bigger fish to fry this weekend. Get the Suitcase.

The "McDonald" Myth and Pivot Controlled Hands. The Grip End does not Point to the Belt Buckle during Start-up. It May appear to point to that location for a Swinger with a Flat Right Wrist at Take-away, until the Bending of the Right Wrist. But thats only a visual "It Looks Like". McDonald and others converted that into a "this is what you should do", rather than, "if you do this, it will look like you did this". It would be nice if the Clubshaft would Point To The Baseline and simultaneously remain on your desired Angle of Inclination.

The Clubshaft has an important Alignment because it is part of the Primary Lever. The "Left Arm Flying Wedge". The Clubshaft is part of the Power Package and Plane of motion and the #3 Pressure Point must reconcile the Power Package Alignments with the Plane-Line. Therefore, it functions even during a Non-Pivot Stroke, say a 20 yard pitch shot.

Thanks for this insight. But how can they move Down, not Out when traveling on an inclined plane?

I'm glad you asked. The "Force" is Downward. The Power Package can Only Move Up and Down. The Pivot moves Out and In. Reconciling them, is the Job #1 of the Hands while Tracing the Baseline of the Inclined Plane. I'm unsure whether downward is On-Plane or Vertical drop. My brain is tired.

I'm pretty sure it is for Hitters using Single Wrist Action Throughout 10-18-C #3, but I'm not sure for 10-18-C #2. I'm not Sure for Swingers if Down means Vertical or On-Plane. For Non-Pivot Strokes, it's definitely an On-Plane Down, not Vertical Drop.

POWER PACKAGE DRILL:

1. Clasp Your Hands in front of you at Shoulder Level.
2. Bend your right arm a few inches.
3. Lock both elbows in-place so that the Arm alignments stay unchanged as you move the Power Package Up and Down from the Shoulder Joints without changing Elbow Bend. Hands and Elbows and arms move up and down in Unison. Look how far the Right Elbow can Travel. It can get as high as your right Shoulder and all the way down to your right hip. That is Downstroke Hand Acceleration Power Package Travel.
4. NOW, move your hands left and Right by unbending and bending the right Elbow. That is Clubhead Acceleration and is the Release Travel of the Power Package. Left Arm Blast Off for Swingers or Right Triceps Thrust for Hitters. GET THIS: When the Power Package is fully Lowered, it's in the Release Zone. Automatically, the Right Arm begins to straighten or the Left Arm moves away from the chest, depending on your point of view. Hitting the "Bottom" of the Power Package Travel is what Triggers the Automatic Release.
5. Left and Right causes the Release.
6. Up and Down does not cause "Release".

Now. Education..........THIS IS WHAT 99% of all Golfers do, including Slicer Mcgolf.

1. Clasp your Hands.
2. Bend your right elbow and place it at your right side. (Most Golfers Right Elbows never leave their right Side)
3. Keep your right elbow stationary and Unbend and bend your Right Elbow to raise and lower your left arm.
4. As you Bend up and down, start pulling your left arm leftward on the Downward unbending motion and your hands will travel from Upper right to Lower Left.
5. What does that do for you? NOTHING, Instantaneous Release with No Acceleration. Except, it will make you Flatten your Right Wrist Through Impact to reach the ball.