LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - shoulder plane and elbow position Thread: shoulder plane and elbow position View Single Post #6 06-11-2009, 08:29 AM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf My mistake on wording... I meant to write selected shoulder turn and the Rotated is my choice based off mt pattern. I find my best feels are with pitch elbow so I was wondering there was as correlation, but I do find that If I let 4 go early without enough pa1, I get into a push position. I wonder if you could clarify what and.or when a stroke is considered pivot controlled. As a hitter, do we not pivot by loading pa1 and bending the right arm? Since I'm looking to set my arms in my backswing using my left shoulder, I would be considered using a PC backstroke? Wow, you're all over the place. How do you get the Right Shoulder to Backstop the Right Arm Thrust? Quote: I find my best feels are with pitch elbow so I was wondering there was as correlation, You can't "Thrust" with a Pitch Elbow. Hitters Elbow Position is at the Side so that it becomes Aligned for pushing during Release. Quote: but I do find that If I let 4 go early without enough pa1, I get into a push position. Does the Clubshaft become "in-line" with your Right Forearm after ball Separation? It is, if you release early, otherwise you'll miss the ball or severely "Top" the Ball. That's a problem with Pivot Controlled Stroke Procedure. "Over-acceleration" causes the Early Release, your right elbow is out of alignment and you run out of right arm before the ball is stuck, and the Clubhead can't reach the Ball without flipping your Right Wrist. You are Pulling Down From the Top with Your Left Arm. I bet that your starting to narrow your stance and playing the ball back a little. Further adjustments won't correct the situation, but they will make you erratic on the golf course. One day great the next day, not so good. Quote: I wonder if you could clarify what and.or when a stroke is considered pivot controlled. The use of a Rotated Shoulder Turn is further evidence of using the Pivot to control the path of the Clubhead. I'm not dissing you. It takes a hell of an Athlete and Hand-Eye coordination to swing like you do. Pivot Controlled Strokes are those that hurl the Clubhead at the Ball compared to Hands Controlled which directs the Right Elbow into the Release Zone. You're monitoring the Pivot rather than monitoring the Hands. Quote: As a hitter, do we not pivot by loading pa1 and bending the right arm? You can load the Power Package with a Non-Pivot Stroke. Pivots occur naturally when the Shoulder Turn, in order to keep Turning, causes other Pivot Components to move. Swingers Bend the Right Elbow like a "Preacher Curl"...Hitters Bend the Right Elbow like a Right Arm "Cable Pull"..... Quote: Since I'm looking to set my arms in my backswing using my left shoulder, I would be considered using a PC backstroke? Homer Said: 7-12 Quote: . A Pivot is only superficially correct that fails to maintain alignments or allows the player to get “out of position”. You will need a Recovery Period, to reset Alignments, before you begin Startdown, in order to direct the Right Elbow into the Release while it's moving simultaneously down, out and forward. Once you Start a Pivot Controlled Procedure (it's extremely difficult to Switch) you complete the swing by monitoring the Pivots direction Control of the Clubhead. __________________ Daryl Last edited by Daryl : 06-11-2009 at 08:43 AM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl