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Old 06-09-2009, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf View Post
Ok, maybe I'm a little confused. If I am looking DTL, and the shaft is parallel to the ground at Parallel 3, the club can be parallel to the ground but not necessary parallel to the baseline or even toe line (since its close). It could be angled backwards meaning that the butt of the club points down the First base line. Would PA3 left forearm rotation not potentially make this club travel a farter distance into impact and therefore have potential for more speed?

There are pictures of a TOP-down view of Gary player, where the shaft is at P3 but the shaft points across the targetline.

I have always had the clubhead too far inside at parallel 1 and instantly had a ton of PP3, which by the time I got back to p3, I was tossing it all away. I found that the right side of my right palm (just south of the pinky finger) was coming off the club. By finding a new pressure point here against my left hand, I could STLOC a little longer.

I toyed with RFA takeaway today with some EA but I find the feelings foreign. The 'no pp3' takeaway gets me on a better plane line and better pictures... here are the goods:

http://widedivots.com/video/swing/1731/nsjune8



OB! things are great! How was last week with the clinic? I heard from some of my old boys at Abbey that LB put on a great show.

Nice motion there, McG. Real nice. You're a playa, its obvious.

Couple of thoughts from a guy who can wag inside and arch it at Top.

- did you see the Gary Player video where he comments on Tigers takeaway and arched left wrist at Top? He made some nice points in regard to Hogan and Tiger in regards to all of this. "if you do this going back , you'll do this coming down" , showing a left hand arching and then bending, throwaway. Similar to your PP3 loading and tossing away note, maybe. Its all unwanted horizontal wrist motion in when its purely vertical motion Homer Kelley recommends.

-the club at the 3rd parallel is on plane if it is parallel to the plane line unless you are using the Angle Of Approach (Hitters) which would require you to be parallel to the Angle of Approach (a straight line drawn between the point of impact and low point, more out to right field for balls played further back of low point). Im not sure about Gary Player, he may have been playing a hook for distance, maybe? Cross line and a closed plane line. Dont think he was a hitter. Was it a driver swing?

-ideally PP#3 is an indirect pressure point. That is to say that it is not like the other pressure points which you thrust upon directly but rather a (the only) pressure point that senses the Lagging nature of the clubhead. To thrust against it is by definition to throw away.

-wagging the club hard and under plane going back can create a ton of pressure against the #3 PP for sure, but its still under plane and remember that for a swinger the #3 PP moves down onto the first knuckle when the club is at End. For a Hitter the #3 PP remains the point of contact of between grip and the first joint in the right index finger unless the Hitter goes past Top to End which means he is loading for some Drag Loading, arrow from quiver, swingers type Startdown. So if are a swinger that you goes to End dont get too intoxicated with that feeling of loading the first joint in the index finger going back.........its the wrong PP#3 and probably associated with a wag move under the plane. It may feel like a powerful load but its off plane. "As you go back so shall you come down" a wag going back leading to a toss coming down. For me this under plane move also causes an arched left wrist at Top or End that discourages left wrist cock, promotes a sweep release etc.

-yah, VJ and Freddie have the right hand come off too. Me too sometimes. Everything except the PP3. A subconscious anti right hand roll over move maybe. They leave the only thing they need on the grip , the PP3. Firming up the grip pressure in both hands can actually limit the right hands contribution to the over swivel I find. Firm grip , flexible wrists really helps me. Ideally its the left forearm and not the right that does any rolling, swivelling , but only in Release or Finish not through impact. When Im really on my game it feels like the right wrist stays frozen in its bent, RFFW manner and the left forearm rolls it back onto the inclined plane in Finish. Maybe just a feel and not a real, that for me works. A separation of tasks between the two sides.

Sean Casey came over and said hi to us when we were at Glenn Abbey. That morning would have been a show for anyone watching. Probably looked more like dance instruction than a golf lesson. When Lynn says he teaches Motion, he isnt joking, but man does it work. Did you know Sean Folley hangs out a bit with Lynn on tour? I introduced them to each other at OCN in Orlando a couple of years back. Small world.

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