LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - shoulder turn? Thread: shoulder turn? View Single Post #14 05-29-2009, 04:19 AM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Originally Posted by bts Hi Jerry, this is my way (with "shoulders turn perpendicular to the spine"), the easy, natural, simple and reliable way. Good luck and have fun! Dear BTS, That was a very nice video, thank you for sharing your procedure and thoughts. However, what you think you do, and how you think you do it, and what you really do, are each a little different. First, when you demonstrate the Rotated shoulder Turn, by standing upright, and include Arm Motion on the same Plane as the Shoulder Turn, you are demonstrating an "On-Plane" shoulder Turn and not a "Rotated Shoulder Turn". NOTE: An On-Plane Shoulder Turn destroys the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. Same with the Rotated Shoulder Turn. Or, you may choose to destroy the Left Arm Flying Wedge in some cases and Keep the Right Forearm Flying Wedge but you can't have both. The Right Shoulder must comply with The Flying Wedges which comply with the Hands, which comply with the Swing Plane. Without the Flying Wedges, you're a two-Barrel-Swinger or One-Barrel-Hitter. (for all of you Hitters out there, who can't hit the Ball as far as you can when you swing, check your Flying Wedges. This misalignment isn't allowing you to pressurize the #2-3 combination or else the Shaft would be Off-Plane.) Second, You do not use a Rotated Shoulder Turn. You have a "Standard Shoulder Turn", which is a Flat Backstroke and an On-Plane Downstroke Right Shoulder. And a very good one. Your Backstroke uses a Shoulder Turn Takeaway. So, you shift Planes on the Backstroke and pull your Right Forearm off-Plane. Your Right Forearm is way high at Release. Your Right Forearm is not providing guidance for the Downstroke or Release Interval. Your Perfectly On-Plane Right Shoulder during the Downstroke is moving the Left Shoulder which guides the Left Arm and Hand and #2 Pressure Point into Release. I don't know enough to give an accurate analysis and only having one swing with one club, I cannot list your Component Variations with any certainty, but: Plane Angle: Downstroke; 10-6-D #B, "Turning Shoulder Plane" Downstroke with On-Plane Right Shoulder. Shoulder Turn: 10-13-A, "Standard Shoulder Turn" Please don't take any of this as rude or negative, and I know that you can shoot scratch Golf and win tournaments with your procedure. I only meant it to be instructional. __________________ Daryl Last edited by Daryl : 05-29-2009 at 08:53 AM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl