LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hanging back on rear leg Thread: Hanging back on rear leg View Single Post #24 05-08-2009, 08:16 AM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 Hands Controlled Pivot Originally Posted by O.B.Left Yoda In regard to a swingers delayed hip turn in startdown, do the hips ever get actively spun? Or do they just react as the hands would dictate or as the power package overtakes the pivot? The person throwing a baseball turns his hips but not actively for instance, it just sort of happens. Hand to pivot throw. As opposed to the very popular golfers early hip spin in transition, mostly before the weight gets left. I am currently having great success just sliding with a delayed turn and thats about it. Maybe a little left leg straightening to ward off my saggy left knee tendancy. No active hip spinning, delayed or otherwise anymore. They do turn towards the target but not by me actively anyways. Everything looks the same or better even, not a hip stall or anything, dont want to hurt myself. More balance, no spinning out on the left foot. Aye O.B., that’s a great example. When kids throw a ball, the boys at a young age taught their pivot to comply with their hands. Hand Control Pivot. They taught their pivots to support and power their harms and comply with the path of their hands. Girls, on the other hand, throw like girls because they haven’t trained their pivots to power or comply. They either use a non-pivot stroke (typical girl’s baseball overhand toss) or if they use a pivot, then the ball fly’s off in an unintended/unpredictable direction. Pivot Controlled Hands means that the path of the hands will be controlled and/or distrupted by the pivot. I don’t know how it’s done in the “North Country” but in the Lower 50 (a Banff, Canadian term), men use an active pivot when throwing a baseball. The Pivot leads the throw. The harder you want to throw, then the harder you pivot. It’s so automatic, we don’t think about it (unless you’re a Cubs pitcher, then you stop thinking about it just before a big game). So, a great Zone 2 can only perform as well as Zone 1, but you need a great Zone 3 to train Zone 1. Is that the Chicken and the Egg? No.... Zone 2&3 are trained by using Basic Motion Drills. Zone 1 is introduced in Aquired Motion to begin training the Pivot. Total Motion drills = training at full Pressure on the pressure points in the 4,1,2,3. In basic motion, one must learn and use extensor action. Aquired motion is great for power package training. Total motion is great for acceleration training. (the pivot keeps on pivoting and isn't overtaken until after both arms straight) People have a habit of swinging harder or faster, using effort. But, you can’t push a car faster than you can run. Your goal is to use the Pivot in such a way that the #3 Pressure Point pressure stays the same all of the way through the ball and further. Distance is gained by putting more pressure on #4,1,2/3. More precise alignments when moving 80% to stay within yourself is the path to greater distance. __________________ Daryl Last edited by Daryl : 05-08-2009 at 09:13 AM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl