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If there are "true" hinging actions happening in the backswing, then I would like to learn more about the phenomenon. I would particularly like to see visual examples.

I am aware that a swinger's action has a release swivel action in the downswing, but I know of no difference in the release swivel action of a swinger who uses horizontal hinging versus angled hinging. If there is a difference, I would like to learn more about this difference.

Jeff.

Techically hinging is just through the impact interval . . . . I'm not really sure about all that hinging in the backstroke stuff. There are probably examples of players that do it . . . . and probably more so in short game situations. For some reason I'm thinking that Lynn has done a video that speaks to this . . . not sure if it is a premium deal or not.

Anyway . . . . I'd say it's more of a wrist action thing than a hinging thing on the backstroke anyway. You can be single wrist action on the backstroke and standard wrist action on the way down. Regardless though if the if the sweetspot and the shaft are in the same plane and "laying on the Plane" they have to eventually come off . . . and then execute the selected hinging (assuming one actually understands and does hinging).

But to you point . . . . a "textbook" or chapter 12 pattern swinger that is using Standard Wrist action by definition would have to swivel the wrist to vertical regardless of the desired hinging (angled/horizontal/vertical) to actually put the face on the ball and not the hosel. But as far as that OPD or OPP or whatever deal from Hardy . . . I don't know anything about him or his patterns but seems to me he's simply describing swinging with Single Wrist Action . . . which is valid. Single Wrist Action isn't exclusive to Hitting. But I'd say much of this discussion also is relevant to grip type . . . for example in the 3rd edition Homer has a 10-2-D grip (strong left hand or Turned Left Hand) pattern . .. . the wrist action is "Angled Hinge" . .. . So the stronger the grip GENERALLY the more the face will be looking at the ball on the way back and THROWN at the ball on the way down.