[Jeff]

Mike

I agree - the mere intent to throw a stone doesn't guarantee that one will transfer weight to the left foot and perform an appropriate hip shift-rotation move. I believe that one has to engrain this pattern if one wants to use an arm-throw swing style. If the pelvis doesn't shift-rotate first, then I cannot understand how the stone skipping action (or golf swing) can occur in the correct manner as a underhand/side-throw action. When I practice a stone skipping action, my right arm immediately goes too far outwards (in an OTT manner) if I do not shift-rotate the pelvis near-instantaneously with the right arm throw action.

Yoda

If DG believes that the right arm throw action must occur without the pelvis moving first, then I would like to review his reasoning. In particular, I would like to learn how one can get the right elbow into the right side using a pitch elbow position, which I presume is necessary for a pitcher's (or swinger's) action. I presume that if the elbow is allowed to jut away from the body during a stone skipping action (because the pelvis doesn't shift-rotate) that it will cause the hand path to be out-to-in (rather than in-to-out) when it passes across the front of the body (passes through the impact zone). Feel free to correct me if my assumptions are incorrect.

Jeff.