[12 piece bucket]

I'd say it's a game of "face" . . . . the angle of the face makes the ball go far or short at a given speed . .. .it makes it go high or low at a given speed . .. . so why would it not be THE biggest factor in direction/curvature. It is THE factor in starting direction and it's relation to the path is the factor in curve.

My question would be more like how much face rotation is actually necessary to produce a "serviceable" shot? I think there is some danger in misunderstanding hinging and swiveling. .. . leading to the belief that you have to "wrap the face around the ball" to hit a draw. You can hit a draw with ANY hinge action. . . long as the face is closed to the path and open to the target.

I would recommend to all one of them face angle magnet deals. Pretty interesting to see the relationship of shaft lean, plane angle shifts, starting direction etc. that you can get from that deal.

One thing that has made a HUGE difference in my chipping/pitching is rather than opening the face at address moving the handle back and laying the face back. That really sets you up with a major bent left wrist. Then I just rotate my stance left until I have an in-line relationship. The ball still thinks the shaft is vertical and the face is laid back . .. .but to me it looks like shaft lean based on my stance. Makes soft chips much easier for me. I can't play golf without the "look" of shaft lean.