LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hogan - closing clubface Thread: Hogan - closing clubface View Single Post #19 06-15-2008, 12:10 AM pistol Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 159 Dariusz First off it is nice to see you have a great grasp on reality versus illusion and some interesting ideas on the right elbow position. This is my opinion on the deal regarding Jim Hardy and how i see the right elbow position. Hogan 1946 to accident had the right elbow well in front of his hip and maintained the left wrist cup and predominantly faded the ball with the odd hook thrown in according to Dr Cary Middlecoff . Post accident and later footage 1960's in particular Hogan clearly changed his pivot and his hands move longitudinally out and down while his lateral shift is just finishing and in my opinion his knee action is part of the deal. Now the right elbow moves into a deep pitch position early in the transition as a result of the knee action and the right hand /wrist/forearm throw that TT describes and this is why the right elbow "freezes" on the hip and some footage marginally behind while the pivot continues and Hogan gets that long right arm after impact. Release and hold i describe this motion as the right hand releases down and out while the left hand holds. This is my opinion why Hardy was fooled by the right elbow as it is still in a pitch and not punch position as it will " freeze" when this motion of the right hand/forearm karate chop is done correctly. In Summary Hogan 1946 to accident very evident cup on left wrist with standard pivot and left arm dominant and not the master of his swing Hogan later years less evident cup on left wrist, different pivot/knee action and right arm dominant and master of his swing pistol View Public Profile Send a private message to pistol Find all posts by pistol