[golfbulldog]

Golfbulldog - you wrote-: "10-13-D On-plane shoulder turn...Homer Kelley's words and photos...dianne's pics show the right shoulder moving down the turned shoulder...single plane throughout the downstroke..."the right shoulder moves toward timpact precisely on the preselected downstroke clubshaft plane..."

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You are seemingly implying that the i) right shoulder has to move down the turned shoulder plane, and then you state that the ii) right shoulder moves down toward impact on the preselected downstroke clubshaft plane.

If the preselected downstroke clubshaft plane is the turned shoulder plane, then i) and ii) are the same. However, what happens if the preselected downstroke clubshaft plane is shallower eg. elbow plane? Surely, it is physically impossible to move the right shoulder along such a shallow plane - unless you have the spinal/torso flexibility of Paula Creamer?

It would seem to me that the best that most inflexible golfers can do is aim the right shoulder towards the ball and hope that one has sufficient spinal/torso flexibility to enable the right shoulder to move down sufficiently in the general direction of the ball.

Jeff.

Hi Jeff,

Absolutely ... the right shoulder at impact is not on the elbow plane even if the clubshaft is....the bits that you quoted were Homer's words...not mine....go back and look at my words earlier in this thread and i say that the right shoulder stays on the TSP plane even if pp3 goes to elbow plane at impact. Here it is...

"#13 05-22-2008, 07:01 AM
golfbulldog
Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005
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Once loaded the right shoulder is better off staying on plane throughout the downswing...no? Maybe not always on the same plane as the pp3 at impact..ie. the shoulder does not have to be on the same elbow plane as pp3might be using at impact....but it can still be on plane....ie tracing??"




I think that we agree with eachother on this point... and that is a first for this particular thread!!!