[Mike O]

Man that makes me want to get Daryl fired up again . . .

Nice try Booger Breath- recruiting some help? but 24 hours later - Daryl's a no show!!! HA! He's probably out of bounds still trying to find his ball!!!!

Let's get back to your slide, rotation, flat, upright- soup!

You said swinging flatter has more rotation and less slide- (even if you didn't say it let's just put the words in your mouth!) I said flatter had more slide and didn't want to talk about the rotation factor as it just confused the issue(then you said I couldn't leave rotation out of the picture- BUT I DID! ).

If I bring rotation into the picture on the backswing then flatter does have more rotation. Now on the downswing you would have more slide than if you used a steeper plane on the backswing - as the hip has to clear more for the "deeper" hand position- assuming a straight line effort to take the hands back to where they need to be at impact (or using an aiming point). I think your initial post implied that more rotation meant less slide - as if they were tied together by some opposite relationship.