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Bucks,

Since when does natural movement and effectiveness in the golf swing collide in the same sentence? If an effective golf swing was "natural" we would not need the genius of Homer or the patience of Lynn, Ted, et al to help us.

If you can see a cup in Lee Buck's left wrist I will buy you a case of moon pies!

UPP in rainy Ohio

Oh I agree . . . I put Lee's up to show that you can do it many different ways and play great golf. However, many people say you gotta be VISUALLY Flat . . . I'm saying that ain't the way your body works. I'm saying that if your joints work that way, why not take advantage of it. You get a full range of motion and it is easier to UNCOCK. Lee Buck is my favorite motion of all time. I think he is as least 2nd if not 1st in ball strikers of all time . .. but he didn't hit it really high. Do you reckon that is why? The Arch? That clubshaft IS NOT in line with his arm. But he makes a motion that is compensatory and could hit any shot he wanted to.

I don't think you'd teach anybody to play that way . . . but if the did it you may not talk 'em out of it either.

I'm just saying if you pick something up like a stick or hammer or whatever . . . your subconsicious kinda has you pick it up with a turned hand. Then when you shorten the radius, you cock AND bend. Because that's the way you was built.