[golfbulldog]

I dont know if hand education in stage 1 must be about lag sensation. I can think of educating the hands to keep the structure of the wedges.....

I found this thread that you surely have seen.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2471

Come back with your thoughts

One more thing, I have been a flipper so I know what you are going through. THE thing that made me progress was monitoring the hands...... I even hit chips by just looking at the hands, to make sure of keeping the structure intact. Then keeping my eyes closed, to get the right feel of it.

Thanks for the thread link... i do not consciously remember the link but i feel sure i must have read it sometime... it would have interested me at the time...

I still think that a bent right wrist inevitably means lag sensation is involved... especially if you start from standard (mid body hands) address....because once your left wrist flattens/right bends... you got lag sensation....and maintenance of lag sensation for swingers is usually achieved by pivot moving hands....

BuT in basic motion , zero pivot ( which i have tried and can do OK) the left shoulder pulls the hands forward... and for there to be no pivot the right shoulder needs to be preset in its impact degree of "downness"... otherwise the right shoulder needs to move down to maintain lag sensation at pp3 and this movement automatically creates pivot.

SO zero pivot can be done but 12 inches back and forward at most and ball needs to be back in stance and right shoulder down at impact height...and impact address probably better for both hit nd swing... to ensure no pivot and right shoulder preset in down impact position...

Feels like a mini-total motion HIT but not like a mini - total motion swing... that is my problem

Learning hitting from zero pivot basic motion = ideal.... but learn swinging from chip pitch ... then you have alignments, lag sensation and powersource in mini swing which is an exact scaled down version of total motion.

that is practical, realistic ... why should swingers learn alignments ( straight plane and FLW)without lag sensation being sustained in the maner it will be in acquired/total motion...? that is the last i sa at moment... i will read everyone else though... you guys stimulate thoughts...thanks... but i am sounding like a stuck record... PS . i love hitting for chips and small pitches...with minimal pivot!!