[6bmike]

Unfortunately, I think that this is a debate that can go around in circles, because there is no differentiation between the actual sequence of events, and the intent of the individual. In other words, many quality athletic motions, including the golf swing, start from the ground up, sequencing through the knees, hips, trunk, shoulders, arms, and hands. However, even though the swing is starting from the ground up, the intent of the golfer may be to move the hands/right shoulder/right forearm/left arm/whatever first, you know? In which case, both sides of the argument could be argued, with no resolution, because one is talking about feel, and one is talking about real, the irony being that both are right (in the proper context). Does that make sense?

What you say make sense in a pure feel system. TGM is more than that.

This has not been a debate because when a question is asked, the reply is an old magazine interview- one I believe was NOT intended to TEACH TGM.
The DOWN Stroke does not in 10-15-B START with the right forearm moving first. The Hips delay or FOLLOW on the up stroke and LEAD on the down stroke. A Hip Slide and Right Arm Throw is different than a Right Arm Throw and turn. Penick's "Magic Move" is simultaneous.
But I asked if this is what TT wants to happen in his stroke- that the right arm precede any Hip Motion. Does is lower hand position make a slide unnecessary? Simple questions - I don't want to read the magazine article again. Maybe some one else knows TT and can help out.