[Mathew]

I thought he meant Ben Doyle

I think he picked Ben Hogan's name out of the sky or something, either that he didn't read my post that carefully... I said I don't care "what any tour player does for that matter".... his name was never said nor implied explicitly or implicitly. What I was talking about was the alignments of the golfing machine.

On a mechanical basis, the question is do you want that left forearm (swivel joint in 2-K) to roll through impact which will make the clubface control (in Homers words) 'extremely fleeting' to where the rapidly closing clubface is in its impact fix condition for the smallest duration.... or do you want to hold the impact fix alignment of the clubface for a sizeable period by holding the left wrist vertical whilst the motion of the left arm preforms a hinge action to precisely control the closing of the clubface just like a closing door. I know which one I strongly think is better. And he is yet to debate this fact except on the grounds that 'Ben plays well' and I'm sorry to tell this to them but that isn't really good enough a reason. Old Tom Morris played well for his time too, should we have stuck to his mechanics? I study the golfing machine because I want to understand and learn and nothing gets in the way of that and if they have a legitimate debate to give in responce thats based upon something solid I would be all ears and so far they are yet to come up with one...and as far as im concerned the mechanical simplicity and superiority of preforming a hinge action over a swivel is 100% undeniable and extremely obvious if you can visualise the machine concept.