LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Downstroke shoulder lag Thread: Downstroke shoulder lag View Single Post #18 03-11-2006, 04:39 PM tongzilla Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 825 Shoulder Turn Thrust and Trigger Originally Posted by Triad Tong, your points 1,2 and 3 were very clear. I lost you on point 4. Would you mind differentiating between the Shoulder Turn Throw and Shoulder turn Thrust? ST Throw = 10-20-C, ST Thrust = 10-?-? ?? 10-20-C calls for a short, sharp acceleration (thrust?) of the right shoulder against the #4PP. How are you defining a Shoulder Turn Thrust as a distinct component from the Shoulder Turn Throw. Is it a longer, more sustained thrust than the short, sharp acceleration of 10-20-C? Is this more compatible with the driving right arm of the hitters motion? Thanks, Triad The Shoulder Turn Throw is a Trigger Type, whereas Shoulder Turn Thrust describes the use of the Right Shoulder to drive the Lever Assemblies and is not a Trigger Type. You need Shoulder Turn Thrust to use the Shoulder Turn Throw. For both Hitters and Swingers, the Right Shoulder is used to overcome the initial inertia of the Clubhead during the change in direction. After this inital phase, the Hitter uses the Right Shoulder as a backstop for the Right Arm to push off. However, for the Swinger, the Right Shoulder continues to actively drive down plane against Pressure Point #4. Only for the Full Power Four Barrel Hitting Stroke does the Right Shoulder continue to be active, but it is still used by the Right Arm to push off. Whatever you choose to do, the Right Shoulder is always leading the Hands (i.e. lagging Hands, Arm and Club -- "Pivot Lag"). __________________ tongzilla tongzilla View Public Profile Send a private message to tongzilla Find all posts by tongzilla