LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hitter's Row Thread: Hitter's Row View Single Post #20 10-13-2005, 09:08 PM Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 10,681 The Plane Of The Turned Right Shoulder Originally Posted by birdie_man Thanks a lot for the response Lynn. .....the hips react to the turning of the shoulders. Delayed Hip Action (10-15-B)- the amount of hip turn you have depends on (and is proportional to) however long your stroke is (and hence, however much you turn your shoulders)....i.e. there is no consious turning of the hips during the backswing as in a Standard Hip Action (10-15-A) swing (as in a swing like Bobby Jones??). Got it. SO X-Factor would then be Delayed PIVOT (10-12-C)? Also, above you wrote: "Further, I advocate a Backstroke wherein the Right Shoulder always Turns back to the Plane. That alignment automatically dictates the amount of Right Shoulder Turn. The Flatter the Plane Angle, the more Turn required. Conversely, the more Upright the Plane, the less required." Was this excerpt supposed to read: "That alignment automatically dictates the amount of right HIP turn"??? By chance? I just want to make sure. Birdie, Forget the 'X' Factor. It is irrelevant to students of The Golfing Machine®. Regarding the excerpt, it is correct as written: The Right Shoulder Turns back to the Plane, i.e., that Plane Angle whose Angle of Inclination (from the vertical Plane passing through the Sweetspot) is defined by the Turned Right Shoulder. __________________ Yoda Yoda View Public Profile Send a private message to Yoda Visit Yoda's homepage! Find all posts by Yoda