Lightbulb went off on the right arm fanning motion. I always interpreted this to be a rolling motion with the right hand, hence it scared the heck out of me as I roll too far inside. Instead, the fanning is the right hand moving back from the elbow with no cocking of the right wrist, no rolling, extensor action keeps it from going too far inside, right? I was thinking the fanning rotated the left arm flying wedge, the fanning rotates nothing, it merely pulls slack out of the left arm. Thanks for the great instruction from Yoda as well as the other members, you cannot help but learn here.
Lightbulb went off on the right arm fanning motion. I always interpreted this to be a rolling motion with the right hand, hence it scared the heck out of me as I roll too far inside. Instead, the fanning is the right hand moving back from the elbow with no cocking of the right wrist, no rolling, extensor action keeps it from going too far inside, right? I was thinking the fanning rotated the left arm flying wedge, the fanning rotates nothing, it merely pulls slack out of the left arm. Thanks for the great instruction from Yoda as well as the other members, you cannot help but learn here.
Good points Dodger. Proper fanning of the right forearm was the key to getting me back on plane from the shaft being too vertical. Non TGM teachers told me I needed more rotation, I would rather my pivot follow my hands, that's what fanning allows in my pattern... This place is the greatest!
Kevin
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I struggled with it as well. Then I sort of discovered the problem by accident and then looked on this site and saw a nice diagram of right forearm fanning and not only was I right, but that's when I finally understood learning feel from mechanics and that's when my game started to really improve dramatically.
For me, it's a bigger focus on the right elbow. That needs to stay in a fixed position (or very close to it) in the takeaway while the right forearm fans back. I was moving the right elbow in order to trace the plane line. I got home and got out a laser and found that yes, you can easily trace the plane line even if the right elbow is in a fixed position.
What I love about the right forearm takeaway is that there's no more consciously or subconscious thinking of where to take the club back in the backswing and trying to keep the clubface square. Now it's just 'fan the forearm' and you're usually set to go.
I struggled with it as well. Then I sort of discovered the problem by accident and then looked on this site and saw a nice diagram of right forearm fanning and not only was I right, but that's when I finally understood learning feel from mechanics and that's when my game started to really improve dramatically.
For me, it's a bigger focus on the right elbow. That needs to stay in a fixed position (or very close to it) in the takeaway while the right forearm fans back. I was moving the right elbow in order to trace the plane line. I got home and got out a laser and found that yes, you can easily trace the plane line even if the right elbow is in a fixed position.
What I love about the right forearm takeaway is that there's no more consciously or subconscious thinking of where to take the club back in the backswing and trying to keep the clubface square. Now it's just 'fan the forearm' and you're usually set to go.
3JACK
Richie,
Your new elbow position is very evident in the latest swing on your blog. Looks GREAT!!!
Kevin
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Im having trouble with the concept of a RFT but then swinging down with the left hand/arm (well having #4 pulling the left side) I know about extensor action and the inert left arm, and that all makes sense, but the transition from rt arm on BS to left arm on the DS is what Im having trouble with.
As a swinger would it be easier to take it back w/ a push of the left arm (Bobby Jones/Byron Nelson) maybe even w/ a little lagging club head action, and then pull down w/ the left side?
I can clearly see how the RFA takeaway for a hitting procedure makes perfect sense.
I do not pull my left arm with my left arm unless it is a pull minor basic stroke (just #4 Acc.) My left arm is blasted off my chest by the pivot. Do not give up on the RFT! Right arm participation is HUGE! If you make the right forearm fanning motion on a horizontal plane (like a seal clap) note the clubface alignment relative to the arc i.e, at right hip height on the backswing the toe is "up" in order for it to achieve the same square to the arc relationship on an inclined plane it will feel like a turn (rotation.) It is not a true rotation of the right forearm. Check out the badminton raquet drills on Alignment Golf DVD # 2.
I struggled with it as well. Then I sort of discovered the problem by accident and then looked on this site and saw a nice diagram of right forearm fanning and not only was I right, but that's when I finally understood learning feel from mechanics and that's when my game started to really improve dramatically.
For me, it's a bigger focus on the right elbow. That needs to stay in a fixed position (or very close to it) in the takeaway while the right forearm fans back. I was moving the right elbow in order to trace the plane line. I got home and got out a laser and found that yes, you can easily trace the plane line even if the right elbow is in a fixed position.
What I love about the right forearm takeaway is that there's no more consciously or subconscious thinking of where to take the club back in the backswing and trying to keep the clubface square. Now it's just 'fan the forearm' and you're usually set to go.
3JACK
This post saved my game. Thanks 3jack. After seeing my swing on video last week I was horrified. I was moving my head, standing up, taking my hands straight inside. And here I thought I was tracing a straight plane line. My right elbow was moving, as well as my head, I was swaying . When I fan my right forearm now, keeping the right elbow still, it feels more like a right forearm pickup. Just like Lynn demonstrates in Alignment Golf DVD. Grab your left wrist and pick it up (on an inclined plane that is). That's what it feels like now. Night and day. My pivot looks a lot better now too. My motion is starting to look golflike. I love it.
Last edited by garagefan66 : 06-08-2009 at 09:31 AM.
Rewatched the dowel drills on Alignment Golf DVD, right forearm pickup with the dowel, tracing the plane, makes the backswing so simple you kick yourself for following the fads.
My right elbow was moving, as well as my head, I was swaying 
. When I fan my right forearm now, keeping the right elbow still, it feels more like a right forearm pickup. Just like Lynn demonstrates in Alignment Golf DVD. Grab your left wrist and pick it up (on an inclined plane that is). That's what it feels like now. Night and day. My pivot looks a lot better now too. My motion is starting to look golflike. I love it.
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