well, basically he just doesnt think you can trace a straight plane line during the course of a swing. He is more of Nicklaus guy, TSP vs. elbow plane. doesnt believe it's an imperative to set up w/the rt forearm on plane, never mentions extensor action. He obviosly makes a great pass at the ball and knows his stuff, but I just need more structure in my swing than what his patterns prescribe.
also, he does not use a RFT either. To each his own, Im finding it easier and little more consistant to stay on plane using the RFT and extensor action.
Yeah, go with the structure! Like Nicklaus did not utilize extensor action! I think the Golden Bear traced a mean straight plane line in his time.
No magic of the right forearm for him then, huh? Me, I am going to insure mine! A pattern devoid of anyone of the three imperatives is not worth equine manure.
There are a lot of ways to get the job done. I guess the fact that the RFT is THE KEY piece to my new and much improved stroke pattern makes me a little defensive. Yoda says that some people like to "just horse it around." Without RFT my head moves too much, making low point geometry a crap shoot. Also, without RFT there is not a whole lot of fanning going on, putting me under plane and laid-off at top. Once you get over the shock of what UP feels like right arm participation ushers you into a new world of sensory experience! I am still working on a centered head, I tend to pre-sway by having it over my right knee. Once I have that licked I'm gonna post it. I wish I had a lot of before stuff, but I can tell you that the after is much more powerful and precise. I may make a return to the competitive arena!
Man I do the same thing. I have a little sway before I even start tracing. Also my head raises a few inches. I drives me nuts because I don't feel the head raise I just see it on video. The right forearm fanning/pickup has helped a lot but the sway and head raise are still there just not as bad. I'm wondering if there is a way to fix this in my set up. It seems like my body is trying to get out of the way so I can trace. I don't know. Any suggestions? BTW, before TGM, AJ Bonar was my teacher and he told me not to try to fix this head raise/pre-sway. He said it would only screw me up.
In my case I have a "static sway" in that my head is not centered but it lists to the right a bit. It used to be over the right knobbly, now it is between the knee and center. Perverted axis tilt at address. You cannot do this out on the course unless you have constant film feedback, the mirror is best. For me the more I use the right forearm takeaway the less my head will move. Watch ball postion. Sometimes a ball located too far back up plane creates a situation where you have a strong urge to get behind it. This is generally because of the seems as if of the head being the center of the orbiting clubhead. Keeping the pressure/weight on the insides of the feet is another deterrent to swaying. As for bobbing (which I have a hint of) I have found that setting my head where it needs to be at impact is key. Of course you have to find where this is, it is not just lower than normal. I tend to get my spine rounded and my knees have insufficient flex (they being anchors that keep the head stationary) The cool thing is if you undertand the proper impact alignments then you will be able to discern many of these other things. work on zone 1 and zone 2 independently then merge them with their seperate identities INTACT!
Cool Okie. I definitely have the urge to get behind the ball. I will try moving ball position forward and make sure the weight is on the inside of my feet. I hope the fix is that simple and not some mental thing like Barkley.
It is ALL mental! By that I mean I believe is has a lot to do with having the right "concepts." Seems as if will never cut it except for out of bounds right that is! Two "biggies" for me were that the left shoulder is the center of the orbiting club head. To be honest I had never really thought about it! But I was operating (looking at my perverted axis tilt) on the head being the center of it all. Of course it IS the center of the pivot, but its relationship to the left shoulder is very important. The second is the right forearm takeaway. This made my newfound hand alignments meaningful i.e. hands to pivot. No longer wheeling it around with the shoulders then shifting up with the arms. My biggest challenge other than priming over 20 years of habitualized ignorance is "accepting" the turning feel of the right forearm flying wedge. Like many I would look like I was a crossing guard holding up a stop sign to say "STOP!"(what Yoda demonstrated as the common tendency in the Drills DVD with the badminton raquets) I keep a pair of pink $5.00 raquets in my bag and swish them quite regularly on the range. I am loading the club like a swinger, as opposed to a hitter trying to swing I can feel #2 PP, and particularly the rotated pressure point (#3pp)! A lot of fun really.
By that I mean I believe is has a lot to do with having the right "concepts." Seems as if will never cut it except for out of bounds right that is! Two "biggies" for me were that the left shoulder is the center of the orbiting club head. To be honest I had never really thought about it! But I was operating (looking at my perverted axis tilt) on the head being the center of it all. Of course it IS the center of the pivot, but its relationship to the left shoulder is very important. The second is the right forearm takeaway. This made my newfound hand alignments meaningful i.e. hands to pivot. No longer wheeling it around with the shoulders then shifting up with the arms. My biggest challenge other than priming over 20 years of habitualized ignorance is "accepting" the turning feel of the right forearm flying wedge. Like many I would look like I was a crossing guard holding up a stop sign to say "STOP!"(what Yoda demonstrated as the common tendency in the Drills DVD with the badminton raquets) I keep a pair of pink $5.00 raquets in my bag and swish them quite regularly on the range. I am loading the club like a swinger, as opposed to a hitter trying to swing
I can feel #2 PP, and particularly the rotated pressure point (#3pp)! A lot of fun really.
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