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Old 07-21-2012, 10:40 AM
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My words are straight from the book and are congruent with homers ideas I need not define the word produces or naturally it's you characters trying to prove homer wrong that should be worrying about clarity u talk about me needing to prove things u gotta be kidding

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Old 07-21-2012, 11:52 AM
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Do u really want me to get a dictionary and define produces or naturally, do you not speak English?
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:43 PM
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Gentleman please . Whip can whip it good. This thread is about him and his search for a pattern . Something that probably lasts a lifetime !

Enjoy the ride and best of luck in your tourney whip. Glad you're here . Glad HB and Bernt are here too .

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Old 07-21-2012, 10:48 PM
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The distinction must be made between the centrifugal reaction holding th e face square To it's cog spinning around a poll horizontally vs how the people shaped golferr utilizes centrifugal reaction the. Ends switching the standard wrist longitudinal acceleration this is why u must cock the wrist and rotate the wrist to setc up longitudinal acceleration at the point if release the face is parallel to the plane line and it is seeking its cog which causes it to close towards its iine condition.

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Old 07-22-2012, 03:22 AM
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will be using this bag and centrifugall reaction in my tourney next week Attachment 2900
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:29 PM
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However its produced you must ROLL.
I do agree the string experiment seems un human golfer like .. And I can't imagine it producing Horizontal a continual roll of the face for planar string travel. Maybe . I dunno. As an aside Ive never heard Lynn mention that this experiment showed Horizontal Hinging. Alex Sloan did write about it at one point. He said he saw horizontal ... but I don't know whether it was cone shaped horizontal and angled at the same time he saw or not. There would have been no rolling for that arrangement. I believe, its confusing stuff. Angled on a cone shape being the same as horizontal visually.

Ive been thinking about this whole "cf closes the face thing" while playing and practicing this past week and while looking inside at my own motion (for whatever that is worth) I notice:

-I do set in motion the face roll. Intentionally although it has become feel , habit over the years. Once set in motion if left undisturbed it seems to keep going on its own.

-I need to hold off the roll for vertical or angled throughout the shot. As if I was fighting some force that wants it to roll. Not sure if its a force HB or just the desire to roll my wedges over (love that rolling wedges notion). Rolling wedges being the most free flowing motion , a flail like action. Perhaps once constructed a flail wants to flail? The Wedges want to roll?

Regardless of how it is gotten Rolling is a big key for me and for Homer . 12-3 22. DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP . Where the only word italicized and capitalized in the whole mechanical check list is the word ROLL . Homer listed this in Section 6, The Top. To me meaning its an intention and one we should have for the downstroke . As if to say : "Where's the deliver line? Ok lets Uncock towards it then lets Roll down it. " Thats the sequenced release version that I prefer anyways.


Most guys Steer the face , never get the Rolling thing happening , never compress the ball to the ideal as per chapter 2 drawing 2-c-1 #3 . So my conclusion about the whole discussion on cf and roll, is as follows... However its produced the face must roll or be rolled down the line. Hogans little baseball bat! Homers prime intention IMO.

And furthermore , since we're right here. Theres the business of whether #2 is thrown out or pulled out by CF or maybe a bit of both. There's so much emphasis on delay'd firing that I think a lot of people never get around to actually really firing anything . Most guys , even good golfers don't get that uncocking as the main power producer can be done with vigour , that you can uncock hard! To my mind this relates to the second most important intention. From Top , Delivery LIne Uncocking Prep. 12-3 -21. You must intend to uncock down the line (and hard if hard is necessary). Velocity Power. 6-B-2-0.

The club is designed with its one heavy end to produce tremendous whirling velocity, to switch ends, to be swung in the true meaning of the word. HB/Bernt please correct my physics here if I have the word velocity mis applied. The golf club when thrown for distance can really fly a long way , end over end. Further than any other instrument I can think of and Ive thrown em all. Hedge trimmer, leaf blower , hockey stick , television remote control ..... hmm not sure about a baseball bat. Anyways IMO when golfing a ball this same whirling action or whatever must be employed to create club head speed . Uncock it and hard is an intention! Sure delay it absolutely, but for golf sakes when the time is right do uncock it. . Throw it out! "Throw ", Homer to Lynn: " I called it a throw and its is a throw!" Throw out as distinct from Throw away. There is a tempo to it . Mike Austin "Step and Throw".

Some may dispute this active throwout point with me . Done with a flat left wrist , rhythm (which requires rolling , yes the secret to a flat left wrist is rolling) it is powerful and consistent. Done with an "on line hinge action" (12-3 #39) its magically accurate.

Sorry for the long post but one more thing . I believe the intention to uncock and roll down the line from Top begets / ensures / promotes the proper alignments requisite to do so. In other words 12-3 # 20, 21 and 22 the intentions as I call them automate proper lag loading ,wrist conditions , alignments at Top. 20, 21 and 22 promotes automates # 19! If your intention is to Throwout you will quite naturally Load in the necessary manner. Load and Throw. Like throwing a ball say. No need to think about how far back you need to take your arm back or whatever just throw the darn thing. "Downswing blackout" is not possible if you have an intention to uncock and roll down the line. 12-3 #21 and 22.

Anyone wanting to goof with this start with an imaginary golf ball teed to chest height. Swing at it with the idea to letting the club go so it flies off down the fairway long and far. An end over end flinging. Notice how the wedges need to roll over . How this rolling over promotes or completes a full free wheeling motion. Have an intention to uncock and roll along the line from the top of your backswing and then do it , actively. See the line then uncock and roll along it. Then gradually lower your imaginary ball down bit by bit until you are on a more golf like plane. Now try this motion on a golf ball without reverting to your previous set of golf intentions. Uncock and roll down the line. Roll the entire set of wedges over not just the hands. Remove any difference between the two motions , see how at chest height your right shoulder gets involved. Delay is a part of it, so is Rhythm . Ted taught me the chest high drill , BTW. I read once that Hogan swung at chest height in his hotel room in the evenings . What a nut bar! Me I only dry swing in elevators or on the way to the can in the middle of the night or ..


Wouldn't it be ironic if beautiful #2 angles and delay was gotten by trying to uncock rather than trying to not uncock. That would be just like golf.

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Old 07-22-2012, 06:53 PM
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Ob once the club head crosses to the outside of the hands in the down swing c.f. takes over and uncocks the wrists and rolls them on plane with a horizontal hinge at this stage of the swing you must only be concerned with clearing the left hip to allow for the hinge and pivot lag
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:45 PM
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Ob once the club head crosses to the outside of the hands in the down swing c.f. takes over and uncocks the wrists and rolls them on plane with a horizontal hinge at this stage of the swing you must only be concerned with clearing the left hip to allow for the hinge and pivot lag
Hey man, I knew this was coming . If not from you then from another good golfer. Thats the feel yes if you're so fortunate. But Homer did say to start with a non auto wrist throw then try to attain auto then auto snap. YOU sir are fortunate to be auto I suspect. Many are not. Many don't feel what you feel , if only they could . If even for a swing or two. I suspect you uncock and hard without knowing otherwise.

See Lynns video on the left hand wrist uncock drill. This is not my epiphany I got this lesson at the swamp from Yoda . I asked him " Why didn't you show me this two lessons ago?" Answer " I have to save some of the good stuff".

Hammer time.

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Old 07-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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Well I guess that wraps up the c.f. discussion?
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:24 PM
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The distinction must be made between the centrifugal reaction holding th e face square To it's cog spinning around a poll horizontally vs how the people shaped golferr utilizes centrifugal reaction the. Ends switching the standard wrist longitudinal acceleration this is why u must cock the wrist and rotate the wrist to setc up longitudinal acceleration at the point if release the face is parallel to the plane line and it is seeking its cog which causes it to close towards its iine condition.
My version of the Forward Swivel is making the decision to keep my left arm plastered to my side in the down swing trusting the CF to "close the door" with a horizontal hinge. When the ball position is too far back, I push the ball, and when it is a few inches back from my left shoulder, a nice draw is the product.

I am always open to a better technique!

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