i am a bit stuck with my thoughts on this & would appreciate any help
in a hitting motion i have myself driving loaded pp1 & pp3 radially into & beyond impact but i'm having trouble with the ball going right of target
i'm thinking the rolling motion is what is going to add power and get the club face to square up & close - what is it that i should be rolling on the plane line ?
is it my flat turned left wrist & hand ? this makes sense as left hand is clubface control
is it my loaded pp3 ? this would make some sense too as no3 is the rotational pp but am i then turning & rolling my bent right wrist & should i be doing that ? My right wrist doesn't turn in the back stroke does it, so should it roll on the downstroke - i'm thinking not.
i've lost track of hinging in all of these thoughts too unfortunately
what is it that i should be rolling on the plane line ?
is it my flat turned left wrist & hand ? this makes sense as left hand is clubface control
The reference is to the Roll of the Flat Left Wrist (Hinge Action) as the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point Trace the Straight Plane Line.
This On Line Motion is not a true rotation (Swivel Action). Instead, the Flat Left Wrist only appears to Roll as it remains Vertical to either the Horizontal or Angled Planes. In the case of Vertical Hinge Action, the Left Wrist remains Vertical to a Vertical Plane and does not even appear to Roll.
i am a bit stuck with my thoughts on this & would appreciate any help
in a hitting motion i have myself driving loaded pp1 & pp3 radially into & beyond impact but i'm having trouble with the ball going right of target
i'm thinking the rolling motion is what is going to add power and get the club face to square up & close - what is it that i should be rolling on the plane line ?
is it my flat turned left wrist & hand ? this makes sense as left hand is clubface control
is it my loaded pp3 ? this would make some sense too as no3 is the rotational pp but am i then turning & rolling my bent right wrist & should i be doing that ? My right wrist doesn't turn in the back stroke does it, so should it roll on the downstroke - i'm thinking not.
i've lost track of hinging in all of these thoughts too unfortunately
TIA
The Vertically Un-cocking Left Wrist allows the Flat Left Wrist to roll on the Base line of the Plane. That way, the FLW does not bend and the club head is allowed to align with the hands and pass the hands on the way to Both Arms Straight the Finishing Swivel and the Finish.
I believe this is a Swingers progression. A Hitter does all these things at once, I believe.
I left my book in the car and it's cold outside.
I'm sure Daryl has a picture of all of this somewhere.
Lynn's answers are better than mine.
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 12-31-2010 at 11:30 AM.
No. I mean that there is a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion and a Right Forearm Paddlewheel Motion.
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. And an equivalent could be “Clubface Paddlewheel Action” executed as a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion. Thus, though some procedures may cause the Clubface to “Close” in relation to the Plane Line, none will be an actual “Roll” of the Hands. See 2-C and 6-B-3-0. There is, however, the “Release Roll” (Swivel) which is a true rotation of the Hands into Impact alignments by Accumulator #3 with (10-18-A only). ................ That is the Geometry of Hinging.
It's what HK "means" by "True Rotation". He doesn't mean that the Hands "Roll" about themselves, but rather, they "Rotate" around the Hinge.
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Photos 6-B-3-0 shows the Left Forearm version – using a slow back-and-forth motion with Horizontal Hinge Action. For the Right Forearm version, do likewise, applying Angled Hinge Action. Do both alternately until you see the distinct differences in the Rhythm and Clubhead Travel of all three of the Roll procedures.
I need to submit a video. Until then, don't pay any attention to me.
i was talking about the possibility of rolling the right wrist to which Daryl was responding i think
i found this which suggests i could focus on the hinging to good effect (as ever going for the simplist option if possible)
Tracing is a [Right Hand] #3 Pressure Point Clubshaft Loading function. And when the Right Hand and Forearm remain Vertical (perpendicular) to the Inclined Plane through Impact, the Lag-Loaded Tracing produces an automatic On Plane Paddlewheel Clubface Motion.
Nevertheless, because of the vagaries of a Right Elbow Control, the ultimate veneer control is a [Left Hand] Hinge Action control of the Clubface.
but also some detail on grip that complicates the issue... shame you aren't coming to the UK this year Yoda
No. I mean that there is a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion and a Right Forearm Paddlewheel Motion.
It's what HK "means" by "True Rotation". He doesn't mean that the Hands "Roll" about themselves, but rather, they "Rotate" around the Hinge.
I need to submit a video. Until then, don't pay any attention to me.
Daryl,
Something is missing here.
Yes, the fundamental nature of the Golf Stroke dictates a definite "Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion and a Right Forearm Paddlewheel Motion". Executed on a Horizontal Plane, neither truly Rolls, nor do they appear to Roll. However, that same Motion -- Wrists held Vertical to the ground -- executed on an Inclined Plane appears to Roll (but it does not).
Bottom line: If the Flat Left Wrist appears to Roll, then its complement -- the Bent Right Wrist -- will also appear to Roll. Assuming a classic Grip with both Hands held Vertical (10-2-B), the Left Wrist cannot Roll without the Right Wrist also Rolling.
Yes, the fundamental nature of the Golf Stroke dictates a definite "Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion and a Right Forearm Paddlewheel Motion". Executed on a Horizontal Plane, neither truly Rolls, nor do they appear to Roll. However, that same Motion -- Wrists held Vertical to the ground -- executed on an Inclined Plane appears to Roll (but it does not).
Bottom line: If the Flat Left Wrist appears to Roll, then its complement -- the Bent Right Wrist -- will also appear to Roll. Assuming a classic Grip with both Hands held Vertical (10-2-B), the Left Wrist cannot Roll without the Right Wrist also Rolling.
That's totally the way I understand it to be. Thank you.
HK spent a lot of time finding the words to explain and define those motions. I can't put them into any other words without sounding like I'm off my rocker or sounding like I'm morphing them into something else.
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