I love reading your posts of discoveries.
One of the nice things you will find is that given what you have learned, any golf ball will do.
I used to be interested in all the latest equipment. Now I am interested in the latest posts at LBG and how in the world will I incorporate them.
Isn't this just the nuts Patrick?
Jerry, are you still thrusting? With my driver, my thrust is easily 90% or better distance of my best swing and so repeatable!
My GSEB told me to push my back shoulder back with extensor action, and then let it rip lineaerly then on the angle. I don't have a framework for this yet! Pushing back the shoulder is very simple and solid. By keeping wedges intact, I can see their path from the top to impact past the front foot to both arms straight. Thrusting down produces an observable second gear. I think EDZ mentioned somewhere that putting the ball back a bit with longer clubs would actually increase compression. If I ignore my clubface and determine to focus only on thrusting my hands and ppt# 3 past my aimpoint, will that dial up even more power? Could it be that simple and logical?
If I tilt my club handle forward a bit more, and thrust down, the clubface will be moving down, out and forward. Is that linear enough? Will that account for a correct ball flight? (I hit a 225 yard 14 degree 3 wood fade on purpose to 4 feet below the hole AND SANK THAT PUTT on Saturday.)The motor propelling the move should not matter, correct? Hitting or swinging will still have the same aimpoint? The motions of hips turnong or shoulder pushes or front foot pulls back hip out of the way are all different paths to the bottom of the aimpoint?
Yes, Jerry, the interconnectedness of these concepts would thrill a physicist/a doctor/ an engineer or a systemmatic theologian!
Patrick
Originally Posted by JerryG
I love reading your posts of discoveries.
One of the nice things you will find is that given what you have learned, any golf ball will do.
I used to be interested in all the latest equipment. Now I am interested in the latest posts at LBG and how in the world will I incorporate them.
Isn't this just the nuts Patrick?
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Last edited by innercityteacher : 05-03-2010 at 11:33 PM.
Great stuff Patrick,
Yup, I am thrusting, but I am finding more success with focus on pp#1 presently. If I get a chance to actually grab some range balls at practice today I will put some time into #3 with a PBS.
I hit a couple bad chips last Sat., but I had not put the left wrist in the neutral position. SHANK. Neutral does it.
Doesn't that really confirm the linear element of RFT? Left wrist goes from uncoked at address to neutral on RFT?
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Great stuff Patrick,
Yup, I am thrusting, but I am finding more success with focus on pp#1 presently. If I get a chance to actually grab some range balls at practice today I will put some time into #3 with a PBS.
I hit a couple bad chips last Sat., but I had not put the left wrist in the neutral position. SHANK. Neutral does it.
No lesson, just a Mother's Day dinner conversation with John and Jean.
When I learned the importance of the plane line, I shot some 85's-87's. Since I have been taking a lesson a week, my scores have gone as high as 97! Because TGM is not a gimmick and is based on actual body mechanics, changing one thing changes quite a lot!
TGM students might need some time to replace bad habits with good habits and then time to reflect on the logical conclusions of their new good habits while practicing. That happens to me a lot. For example, once I saw how simple and powerful the sternum centered flying wedge position is, I had to experiment with turning the hip back, belly button back, pushing the shoulder back or matching the sternum to the RFT. I realized in casual conversation with John after dinner, that I move my ball position for every club. That prompted John to ask why. My answer was that I read that I should do that in an old Gary Player comic book or Jack Nicklaus comic. And that led to a discussion of impact fix as a secondary aiming point, and plane line as primary aim point. John said he believes that my ball position might actually need to be pushed back another inch. Anyway, there will be a whole series of experiments that must follow that observation.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
"Level left wrist" neither fully cocked nor fully uncocked.........the gate way to the On Plane Right Forearm and its structural magic for chips and every other shot too. Try it with some Extensor Action to really feel the structure and make sure you make it all the way to Both Arms Straight to complete the correct clubhead orbit and feel little chip shots that are "nutted", pure compression. Yoda would chuckle and say "Hear that sound.....heh , heh, heh". Three dimensional impact.
The Level Left Wrist is employed for every shot (an example of Homers Sameness) but the position of the club in the left hand grip can be altered to zero out the #3 Accumulator typically done in Basic Motion , little chip shots or putts......to deaden the send. Although I know a guy who zeroes it out for every shot ........he dont hit it too far that guy. He's all zone 1 and 2 no zone 3 power.
So far, I have personally suggested that 10 plus people take lessons from my GSEB. I have written mor than 50 notes to people at the driving range about this site. I am not renewing my "Golf-Link" subscription (though it is good), nor my Moe Norman site, nor any other site. I have purcased Alignment Golf I and will get AG II.
What's my point? THIS SITE IS MORE INFORMATIVE, PERSONABLE, AND COMPLETE IN IT'S EXPLANATION OF GOLF FUNDAMENTALS THAN any other golf site. I like the Australian sites and they have some very cool things like animations and some interesting organizational schemes, but the depth and generosity of this site's leadership is AMAZING!
In Nick Faldo's "Golf-The Winning Formula," Nick Faldo (Leadbetter,pp.88-90), describes 3 ways to "Reverse the Swing." The first is "to feel the left shoulder rise." The second is the "bringing the back elbow down and in." The third, "and only for the most advanced player," is to feel the left knee seperate from the right.
I asked my GSEB about this, today, as he instricted me to come to "neutral knees," before "hitting the ball with my hips." So I noticed the left knee move and asked.
As I practiced coming to neutral, the ball compressed differently and travelled low before climbing the hill to apex and landing softly. It made a diferent compressing sound and felt effortless.
Why is such a little move so radically effective? I'm not sure. But the feeling is so significant, was so significant that I gained almost 10 yards of carry, today, and more yards from roll.
When I started with my basic clone sand wedge, I was not getting to the 80 yard flag and elevated green with the range balls. As John worked with me to get the knees to neutral then, "fire my hips," "hit the ball with my hips," "be quicker with the hips," and "develop hip-eye coordination," I went over the flag and the ball started to go about 20 feet higher. When I stopped with the SW, the shots were rolling 95 yards plus. The 8 iron flew 145 and rolled almost 160.
Then, as I started using my 6 iron, I lost compression and kept hitting behind the ball. John told me that I often look like Charles Barkley. By using my arms and hands to hit the ball, I was forcing my right shoulder down and jamming my right hip shut, looking like CB. With longer irons, I was getting worried about power and trying to force the club down instead of shooting my hips down range and letting the club work.
I experimented with various ways to come to neutral including raising the left shoulder, popping the left knee to seperate (the hips must move the knee), and rolling the left ankle.
I settled on rolling the left ankle. I use JN's elbow putting stroke w/index finger on the side so why not roll the front ankle? Combined with an inclined hula-hoop trace in front of me, the club bites and the ball "clicks" to compression.
"Hula trace-up, roll up, tilt away, compress!"
Thoughts?
Patrick
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
"Level left wrist" neither fully cocked nor fully uncocked.........the gate way to the On Plane Right Forearm and its structural magic for chips and every other shot too. Try it with some Extensor Action to really feel the structure and make sure you make it all the way to Both Arms Straight to complete the correct clubhead orbit and feel little chip shots that are "nutted", pure compression. Yoda would chuckle and say "Hear that sound.....heh , heh, heh". Three dimensional impact.
The Level Left Wrist is employed for every shot (an example of Homers Sameness) but the position of the club in the left hand grip can be altered to zero out the #3 Accumulator typically done in Basic Motion , little chip shots or putts......to deaden the send. Although I know a guy who zeroes it out for every shot ........he dont hit it too far that guy. He's all zone 1 and 2 no zone 3 power.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
I won't buy the Pings, though, 'till I break 80 several times!
Patrick
Originally Posted by Daryl
Sounds like some "Booty Dance".
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Hi guys! I hope you are having a pleasant day and outside doing fun golfing things!
As you know, I have an artificial hip, metal rod, and left (front) leg 1.5" shortness.
My GSEB has been encouraging me to fire my hips which has added power and compression to my shots.
Today, I practiced bringing my back shoulder up and around which put me on plane, and then leading with my front shoulder feeling up then around. The club seemed to point at my sternum. The shots made me feel like Jack Niclaus or Moe Norman. Checking in the mirror behind me, the club seemed to ride the shoulder plane. The ball travelled well with a little fade. I felt like I was hitting the ball with my left shoulder.However,I couldn't find the compression I had yesterday.
In contrast, as I got tired, I flattened the clubs standing farther away from the ball but still on right forearm plane and pointed them at my belly button, then turned on that belly button back and through. The club was much lower but on plane and seemed to follow the height of my elbows. That felt more powerful still, and it felt like my elbows were glued to my sides of my ribs. The power and pop was about a club longer and it felt like I was hitting with a horiz. hinge. As long as I watched the ball with a firm head, the ball was long and straight. After a couple of swings, I felt like I was hitting the ball with my right forearm.
I think I turn my hips more by rotating my belly button than by turning my shoulders.
Can someone explain if they have experienced something similar, or maybe it is an artificial hip thing? Can you tell me if you have gone through these stages on your way to shooting lower scores? Maybe I'm just fatigued by stuff but I feel like their is something obvious I just cannot grasp that will move me to a legit single HCP player. Suggestions?
Patrick
Originally Posted by Daryl
Sounds like some "Booty Dance".
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Pushing back the shoulder is very simple and solid. By keeping wedges intact, I can see their path from the top to impact past the front foot to both arms straight. Thrusting down produces an observable second gear. I think EDZ mentioned somewhere that putting the ball back a bit with longer clubs would actually increase compression. If I ignore my clubface and determine to focus only on thrusting my hands and ppt# 3 past my aimpoint, will that dial up even more power? Could it be that simple and logical?
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