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Old 05-22-2009, 11:12 AM
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Left wrist cock vs right wrist bend
I apologize in advance if the answer is right in front of me or already discussed. You see, I am trying to educate myself and inturn my hands. With a swinger, I understand you Karate chop down plane from top, left wrist uncocks, then rolls into impact. The question: Doesn't the uncocking left wrist require the right wrist to bend (at least some) if the hands are working together? Frozen right would seem to make more sense for a hitter where there is no Karate chop or left wrist and roll is at the same time. Thank you.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:07 PM
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I apologize in advance if the answer is right in front of me or already discussed. You see, I am trying to educate myself and inturn my hands. With a swinger, I understand you Karate chop down plane from top, left wrist uncocks, then rolls into impact. The question: Doesn't the uncocking left wrist require the right wrist to bend (at least some) if the hands are working together? Frozen right would seem to make more sense for a hitter where there is no Karate chop or left wrist and roll is at the same time. Thank you.

You'll need to practice and try this out, but the Left Wrist gets Cocked by and when, the Right Elbow Bends. The Right Wrist does not Cock.

Also, don't think: Un-cock-Left-Wrist and then Roll. The Swivel begins after the Left Wrist BEGINS to Un-Cock. And Actually, I mean just more than a Millisecond. Both Wrists are level at Impact and the Left Wrist doesn't become fully Un-cocked until low point. So, you can imagine just how close the hands are to the ball before or as the Left Wrist Un-cocks and Swivels.

The Hands should be at the Line-of-sight to the ball before Un-cocking and swiveling begins. Which is about even with your Left Ear. It’s tough if not impossible without the proper pivot.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:45 AM
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The Hands should be at the Line-of-sight to the ball before Un-cocking and swiveling begins. Which is about even with your Left Ear. It’s tough if not impossible without the proper pivot.


Can you explain this a little more....its hard to imagine that there is no uncocking/swiveling that late in the downswing and that the hands cross the line of sight of the ball. That picture has shank all over it for me..thanks
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:07 PM
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Can you explain this a little more....its hard to imagine that there is no uncocking/swiveling that late in the downswing and that the hands cross the line of sight of the ball. That picture has shank all over it for me..thanks
I believe your observation could be correct. I think you have to allow your accumulators to release in a fashion that allows you to stay on the plane angle as well as the plane line. Holding that karate chop deal too long can definitely be a problem. The club has to throw out which definitely involved the hands working "left" earlier than I used to think. If you hold the chop too long it can get you tilted back too much too and compromise low point. Good ideal to do your tracing slow and watch where the club is and where the hands are correspondingly. You want to karate chop early to keep from roundhousing but if you hold that to long your are gonna get off plane.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:01 PM
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Can you explain this a little more....its hard to imagine that there is no uncocking/swiveling that late in the downswing and that the hands cross the line of sight of the ball. That picture has shank all over it for me..thanks
Don't allow the #4 Accumulator to Release to soon and include a Straight Line Delivery Path.

Which requires you to bring the Hands into Release On-Plane and without Un-Bending the Right Elbow. Not even unbending one inch during the Downstroke; from Top/End to Release. The Club Lowers from the Top because the Right Arm moves nearer to the body. This does not release the Accumulators (therefore, not the club). The Accumulators Release when the Right Elbow begins to Straighten for both Hitters and Swingers. The difference is 'what causes the straightening'.
  1. Which involves not overbending the Right Elbow during Start-up and the Backstroke.
  2. Which involves Extensor Action and the "Magic of the Right Forearm".
  3. Which involves the Right Forearm Take-Away.
  4. Which involves Fanning the Right Forearm.
  5. Which involves the Right Shoulder Deltoid Muscle.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:41 AM
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I apologize in advance if the answer is right in front of me or already discussed. You see, I am trying to educate myself and inturn my hands. With a swinger, I understand you Karate chop down plane from top, left wrist uncocks, then rolls into impact. The question: Doesn't the uncocking left wrist require the right wrist to bend (at least some) if the hands are working together? Frozen right would seem to make more sense for a hitter where there is no Karate chop or left wrist and roll is at the same time. Thank you.
In "Swinging", the left wrist cocks and the right bends going back/up (or Loading).

During coming back till Impact (or Releasing), it's reversed-the left wrist is uncocking and the right unbending.

Yo can do it intentionally or allow it to happen naturally. I prefer the latter (so that I only need to focus on one thing-pivoting), unless I intend to Pull it down and Push it through impact ("switting").
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:50 PM
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During coming back till Impact (or Releasing), it's reversed - the left wrist is uncocking and the right unbending.

The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is a by-product of the bending and straightening of the right elbow.

Whereas the flattening of the left wrist and bending of the right wrist are joint ventures; they go hand in hand, pun intended. But, at no stage of the down swing process is unbending of the right wrist anything but a recipe for flipping.

Keep the right wrist bent (and maintain the integrity of the flat left wrist) until low point at the very least.
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The Hands should be at the Line-of-sight to the ball before Un-cocking and swiveling begins. Which is about even with your Left Ear. It’s tough if not impossible without the proper pivot.

Could someone explain this a little further?

Can pivot mean away from the target or toward the target or both?

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Old 05-24-2009, 09:54 PM
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The Swivel begins after the Left Wrist BEGINS to Un-Cock.



This sentence really helped me out. I always thought it was uncock and then swivel. Thank you so much.
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jerry1967 View Post
The Hands should be at the Line-of-sight to the ball before Un-cocking and swiveling begins. Which is about even with your Left Ear. It’s tough if not impossible without the proper pivot.

Could someone explain this a little futher?

Can pivot mean away from the target or toward the target or both?
Jerry,

Your hands need to be on the line-of-sight (between your eyes and the ball) before your wrists Un-Cock. Accumulator Release is a VERY short interval slightly before, then during and after Ball contact-separation. Release does not normally occur during the Downstroke. It begins after the downstroke ends and the Release Interval begins. You need a solidly correct Pivot controlled by the Hands, Magic of the Right Forearm and extensor action to get the Hands this far forward. Then it's easy, almost natural. But without these things you will have ClubHead throwaway.

I'd like to give you an easy answer, but that would take the whole book.
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