1. Address the ball in impact fix with my right hip already set back
2. Pull my right elbow straight back (lawn mower pull) while employing extensor action and keeping the flying wedge with right wrist.
Hey Greyguy
I feel much the same. But the reality, I think, is that correct plane line tracing in Startup requires a coordinated Right Forearm Fan, Right Elbow bend and Right shoulder move back towards the plane. A pure saw or lawn mower pull alone can get me off line and off plane.
I need to check this constantly. In my old swing I used to go outside the plane line with a non bending right elbow so it feels very elbow bendy to me now, but there is more to it than just that. To check it get a mag light and grip it golf like with the lens right beside the #3 Pressure Point. Find a long straight line and see how compliant you are with tracing a straight base line , plane line in Startup.
You can do it with just the right hand but adding the left provides the Check Rein Action of the left arm which really changes things. Basically the left shoulder is now established as the Center of Radius and the right elbow has to bend for the hands to move back.............unless you want a pure shoulder rotation takeaway, which you dont. Believe me, I had one for three decades or so. They were really in vogue in my youth. I guess I was young and subject to peer pressure.
Put your mind in your #3 and draw a straight line with it. Add a feeling of Lag to it on the way down , sustain it, nurse it right through the shot and you could win three tournaments in a row with just this. Alex Sloan did anyways.
1) Your Swing Plane is determined by waist bend? Pretty much, and the stance, as well.
2) When does your elbow stop bending? Near the top.
3) Doesn’t your Right Elbow Tend to be too high at release? Not really, in the presence of "Lag", but in the absence of "Steering and Hack".
4) How do you control the amount of elbow bend to have your right forearm on plane at release? For purer "Swinging", I don't control it and the shaft is usually between the right forearm and the left. For "Switting and Hitting", I intend to push the club slightly toward the right side of the target.
5) Don’t your hands actually stay lower at the top of the swing when you bend your right elbow in this manner? I don't think so. I believe it's quite on-plane.6) Does your Right Elbow get closer to your side at the Top? I think so and never pay attention to it.7) If the above is true, then don’t you skip an acceleration stage? Arm/Hand? I don't intend to accelerate the club(head), but sustain the "Lag", which, in turn, does whatever it's supposed to. Do you tend to take deep divots? I can if I want to, but don't usually do.
9) Do you feel like there is a Flip (Kink) in your wrists at release if you’re off plane a little? Maybe, but, again, it doesn't come into my mind.
10) How do you stop from cocking your right wrist? I don't need to and never pay attention on it.
Thanks You're welcome.
In a word, I usually rotate my shoulders (for the backswing) and pivot (for the downswing) only and let the "Law" take care the rest.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
For sure, as long as it's not botherred, for example, by the intent of "Steer" or "Hack".
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
To learn a solid takeaway, get into an address position without a club. Level right wrist. Right forearm flying wedge in place.
clap your hands, leaving the left hand and arm at impact. Let your right hip move 'back' (clear it)
As you make that clapping motion bigger, allow the right hand to turn so that at the 'top', you are in a karate chop 'on plane' position with the pinky side of the right hand.
practice returning both to a 'clap', as well as a 'karate chop' back to the left hand. The 'karate chop' will show you how the right shoulder moves down plane.
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To learn a solid takeaway, get into an address position without a club. Level right wrist. Right forearm flying wedge in place.
clap your hands, leaving the left hand and arm at impact. Let your right hip move 'back' (clear it)
As you make that clapping motion bigger, allow the right hand to turn so that at the 'top', you are in a karate chop 'on plane' position with the pinky side of the right hand.
practice returning both to a 'clap', as well as a 'karate chop' back to the left hand. The 'karate chop' will show you how the right shoulder moves down plane.
Should we lift with the shoulder or bend at the elbow or both?
If both, then how much elbow bend?
What Muscles do I use?
Which Muscles should I avoid? Why?
How far back?
How far Up?
Where should my Right Elbow be?
How Far should my Right Elbow extend from my Torso? My Hands?
Should we try and get the Left Arm to lay Flat across the chest or at 45 degrees or somewhere in-between?
When should we turn the Right Hand to the plane?
When do I know that I've reach Top? Geometrically?
When do I know that I've reached End? How can I tell?
Should I change anything for a Half Swing?
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Do you tend to take deep divots? I can if I want to, but don't usually do.
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