That's just one guy swinging with his right arm (how can you base your conclusions on the swinging action of one golfer)...Tomasello doesn't look like that when he swings with his right arm, and I don't either. Mark Evershed doesn't...Erie Els doesn't....Retief Goosen doesn't.....David Love III doesn't.
DG
DG (Trademark use approved via PM - well maybe not),
I was just running with Homer's observation and I concluded that based on my observation that the player has transferred the center to the right elbow - hence that's how I would define a right arm swinger. In that strict definition, I would say that none of the players you listed are right arm swingers.
With that said, certainly my post could very easily be interpreted to read that a left arm swinger wouldn't or couldn't have some or a lot of right hand, arm, etc. involvement in the pulling process- which they certainly could. Therefore, if your point is that the players you mentioned may have felt or expoused pulling the club with their right arm- to any degree- I'm sure that's very possible but I would say that none of those players have transferred their center to the right elbow- therefore I wouldn't categorize them as a right arm swinger in the Golfing Machine world. Assuming that's your "issue" then I think it's a good point to make.
If after reading this you are upset with my use of your Trademark- you can contact my personal attorney - just realize that he is not board certified at this time- you can PM him from this forum- he goes by 12 Piece Bucket.
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Aside from the fact that Mike O never referenced the late Tommy (Tomasello) in his post, I thought we had concluded a year or so ago that Tommy was not a Right Arm Swinger. Nor was he a Hitter. Instead -- however explained -- he was a (Left Arm) Swinger integrating a sound Pivot with the Magic of the Right Forearm / Elbow Action.
Little Green Man,
Tommy did it all. Right arm swinging per 10-20-B, Right Shoulder Swinging per 10-20-C, Right and Left Arm Swinging per 10-20-D (the swinging procedure you're refering to above) and Left Wrist Swinging per 10-20-E.
On the driving range of the Deer Track resort, Tommy taught me right arm swinging (I have that instruction on audio tape), which I believe would have led to Right Arm and Left Arm swinging if I would have spent more time with Mr. Tomasello (I believe Tommy wanted me to understand and execute the magic of the right forearm before moving on and to include the left forearm for a full power stroke per Chapter 5 of the video series and per 12-5-3 and 10-3-D of the Seventh Editon of TGM...makes sense). I believe that's why Tommy handed me the Australia Video tape (which is now the Chapter series on this site) as I left his studio on Friday 10/22/93. In the end, I believe personally, Tommy favored the Right Forearm Left Forearm procedure per 10-20-D in his own playing as seen on the Australia/Chapter video series. The Right Forearm and Left Forearm swing includes the same Magic of the Right Forearm action as utilized in the 10-20-B Right Arm procedure (a la the right arm swing)....so you could say it's a derivative of right arm swinging. It's all swinging (Longitudinal Acceleration, which means Lengthwise Acceleration).
On the driving range, I have experimented with all of the procedures and I favor the Right Forearm Left Forearm procedure Tommy used per 10-20-D for Swinging.
DG
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Tommy did it all. Right arm swinging per 10-20-B, Right Shoulder Swinging per 10-20-C, Right and Left Arm Swinging per 10-20-D (the swinging procedure you're refering to above) and Left Wrist Swinging per 10-20-E.
Well . . .
There you go:
Tommy was The Man!
Now, despite your inappropriate beating of the Tom Tom(asello) and the obvious errors in your quote above . . .
Now, despite your inappropriate beating of the Tom Tom(asello) and the obvious errors in your quote above . . .
Could we get back to the subject of this thread?
DG,
10-20 Trigger types don't define the type of swinger you are but as I've said before if you're going to run 100% with Tommy then you'll have some issues as far as the "book" goes - in my opinion.
As I've said before - that doesn't or shouldn't discount the fact that Tommy was a great personality, a devoted AI for Homer and a great guy I'm sure! I'm sure with his close contact with Homer and his passion for the Machine - he was a great instructor, friend, etc. for you and many others- including Lynn.
Now, if you were going to pick one person after Homer's passing that had the knowledge of the book and the passion to spread it - then no one touches Lynn Blake in that category! At the time that Lynn re-entered the scene in 2005? He was - in my opinion - the ONLY AI (I know he's not an "official" AI now) to sufficiently understand and fully grasp the concepts that Homer Kelley outlined in his book. Therefore, if he ever says something that doesn't match with your understanding - then I'd listen real carefully.
However, that's why these forums are always interesting because everyone has their own opinion!
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You wrote-: "Right Arm Swinging supplies more power than left arm swinging. That coming out of the mouth of one Homer Kelley...I agree."
Where did HK make that statement? In that video, HK only stated that the particular golfer may do better with right arm swinging. He didn't state as a generic rule that right arm swinging would supply more power than left arm swinging.
You wrote-: "Right Arm Swinging supplies more power than left arm swinging. That coming out of the mouth of one Homer Kelley...I agree."
Where did HK make that statement? In that video, HK only stated that the particular go
lfer may do better with right arm swinging. He didn't state as a generic rule that right arm swinging would supply more power than left arm swinging.
Jeff.
Jeff,
I would suggest you transcribe the minute long conversation....second, I would go back and watch the Chapter 5 video from Tommy...
at the end of Homer's comments.....he says..."some are good left arm swingers....there's there's this power that he's got on that....." Homer is interupted by one of his students who says something to the effect.....would it be good for right handers to become Right Arm swingers and HK agrees....."that's a good point'. Homer didn't get the chance to finish his thought....but, I'm bettin man and I would say he was going to say right arm.
DG
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 11-17-2008 at 01:31 AM.
DG,
10-20 Trigger types don't define the type of swinger you are but as I've said before if you're going to run 100% with Tommy then you'll have some issues as far as the "book" goes - in my opinion.
As I've said before - that doesn't or shouldn't discount the fact that Tommy was a great personality, a devoted AI for Homer and a great guy I'm sure! I'm sure with his close contact with Homer and his passion for the Machine - he was a great instructor, friend, etc. for you and many others- including Lynn.
Now, if you were going to pick one person after Homer's passing that had the knowledge of the book and the passion to spread it - then no one touches Lynn Blake in that category! At the time that Lynn re-entered the scene in 2005? He was - in my opinion - the ONLY AI (I know he's not an "official" AI now) to sufficiently understand and fully grasp the concepts that Homer Kelley outlined in his book. Therefore, if he ever says something that doesn't match with your understanding - then I'd listen real carefully.
However, that's why these forums are always interesting because everyone has their own opinion!
Don't agree....based on my experience with personally studying with Tommy....listening to my audio cassettes of my instruction. I really don't believe for a second that Tom Tomasello put his own spin on TGM.
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