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Old 10-04-2005, 05:24 PM
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Great swing man.

But what's the point now?

Where, when, how?

Me: "What????"
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Old 10-04-2005, 06:10 PM
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POST OF THE CENTURY....

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In general, the Release Component (#24) refers to where in the Downstroke the Accumulators begin to fire. The Trigger Component (#20) refers to how that Release is to be initiated. The term Delay -- within the constraints of the boundaries of the selected Release -- refers to when that Triggering is to occur. Thus, though the three terms are coordinate, they remain independent and not synonomous.

The Snap Releases occur at the end of the Line Delivery Paths and the selected Trigger is Delayed until that point. If the Release is Triggered Automatically (in conjunction with the Aiming Point Procedure consciously or subconciously employed), then there will have been a Maximum Trigger Delay. Though The Golfing Machine does not define the term Minimum Trigger Delay, the student can infer that term to mean the earliest possible Non-Automatic Triggering (while respecting the entry boundary of the Snap Release).

The Random Sweep Releases occur prior to the end of the Delivery Paths -- at the Side -- earlier in the Downstroke than their Snap counterparts. If the selected Trigger is Automatic (again, via the Aiming Point Procedure), then a Maximum Trigger Delay will have been effected. If the Triggering is Non-Automatic and initiated as early as possible after the entry boundary of the Random Release, then there will have been Minimum Trigger Delay.

The Full Sweep Release begins immediately at Start Down. Hence, there is no Trigger Delay and, by definition, no Maximum or Minimum classification.[/quote]


I felt we needed a "sacrificial lamb" for this awesome discussion on:

[b]WHERE[/b} the accumulators begin to release....

[b] WHEN [/b} they are triggered....

HOW they are triggered...

I am a visual learner...the words need to come to life!!!!

BTW way ....notiice the change in the distance of the dots...i "TRACED" the #3 PP all the way down........


I noticed the Top Arc....then some portion of a "line" (straight or angled?) then the relatively small release pulley....

What do you guys see?


The Sacrificial Lamb!!!!

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Old 10-04-2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
I noticed the Top Arc....then some portion of a "line" (straight or angled?) then the relatively small release pulley....

What do you guys see?
I see it the same way, Annikan.

Great stuff!
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Old 10-04-2005, 11:57 PM
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Ok,
All missed my point. DG, no offense - I love Tommy, and I have a ton of video and audio on him....this is for me only.

1. Where is Snap Release defined at the 'end of the delivery line path'? While it may be benefial to describe it that way...are you saying its defined as such?

2. Why cant a circle path delivery incorporate a Snap Release?????

3. Why can a snap release with max trigger delay not be used with no automatic???

These are core questions that perplex me.

Thanks!!!
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:09 AM
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Swinging





Hitting

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Full Sweep Hit or Swing?




Checkout the assembly point, delivery path, triggering, handspeed,release differences...let's discuss the differences!!

What's "Snappin" and what's Sweepin"...The Lever assemblies!!!

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Old 10-05-2005, 11:40 AM
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Philly,

My "uneducated guess" to question #2...

is...

No Snap with Circle Path...

because...

No Belt ...just ONE big pulley or wheel!



Still pondering other questions!!!

PS Call me again..your # at work... didn't work ...# at home...answering machine!!!

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Old 10-05-2005, 04:05 PM
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My initial call on seq #3 was a Hit because in frames 3 and 4, the shaft isn't loaded(blurred) as in your Swing seq. However, since the player in seq #3 loses so much wristcock from the top, it's almost impossible to load the shaft longitudinally even if he is Swinging. I still think he's Hitting, but whether a Hit or Swing, he's pulled off a miracle by getting his hands barely ahead of the clubhead at impact.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:18 PM
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MJ,

Agreed...

No miracle ...just a very slow gradual "sweep"...of the accumulators

Great player from the UK...plays on the college team here at the University...Hits it high-high-high!!!!
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:27 PM
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This guy doesn't have very much #2 to begin with at the top. If you only posted the last frame, I think everyone would be praising the alignments. I'm not sure the guy has "thrown it away," because he didnt' have much to throw away in the first place.

May be wrong . . .
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
Philly,

My "uneducated guess" to question #2...

is...

No Snap with Circle Path...

because...

No Belt ...just ONE big pulley or wheel!



Still pondering other questions!!!

PS Call me again..your # at work... didn't work ...# at home...answering machine!!!

Sky
Originally posted by annikan skywalker- in relation to his swing:
I noticed the Top Arc....then some portion of a "line" (straight or angled?) then the relatively small release pulley....

What do you guys see?

Practically looks like you've got a circle path with a snap release in your movement? What do you think?
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