I'm wondering about the advantages and disadvantages to early plane shifts.
The wise one wrote that an ideal pattern would have the least plane shifts, however, plane shifts are accepted. Is there a relationship between the number of shifts and the earlier the shifts occur in the backswing?
I'm wondering about the advantages and disadvantages to early plane shifts.
The wise one wrote that an ideal pattern would have the least plane shifts, however, plane shifts are accepted. Is there a relationship between the number of shifts and the earlier the shifts occur in the backswing?
Years ago I was a fan of early Plane-Shifts. Then I changed and I think that Late Plane-Shifts have their place, especially with multiple Plane-Shifts. In the Book somewhere (I'll try and find the reference) it says that the Last Plane shift is the most important one and that it occurs later in the swing than earlier ones.
Plane shifts are like kids. You can't stop at one. You should have two or more. It's a balance thing. One going up so why not one going down? Think Rhythm. 1,2 or 1,2,3.
I don't know, if the earlier during the Backswing a Plane-Shift occurs, means that you'll have more of them. But, it sure does give you an opportunity to have as many as you want.
Look for a thread that Bucket posted some time ago. It was titled "Shift into high gear with Plane-Shifts".
There are ways to somewhat overcome the problems with Plane Shifts. But if you're willing to work on them, then why not rather work to eliminate them?
If a Golfer includes a Plane Shift during the Downswing then 99% of his problems will be poor execution while learning to control that shift.
Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf
I didnt find the thread but I found a few others, including one I started on a similar subject. Clearly my idea isn't clear yet.
What I read was:
plane shifts are hazardous because they change the path of the hands and creates a more chaotic model.
Not exactly on the money. The Hands path changes but the club shaft may point to another plane. Who's watching the store?
Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf
hand path and plane shifts are directly related to the pivot - hip action, knee action, spine tilt.
This is true only in "Pivot Controlled Hands" Procedures.
Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf
right elbow position dictates the hand path, and therefore if and when plane shifts happen.
Not exactly on the money. In TGM, the Hands (with assistance of Extensor Action) dictates Right Elbow Location for Release. However, with any Downstroke Plane Shift, the Pivot determines the Right Elbow Location and Release Point.
Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf
The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. Great for the backswing.
And the Downstroke.
Originally Posted by slicer mcgolf
Therefore a longer line can create more speed, so would a loop or early plane shifts on the way down create more speed?
Can you "loop" and strike the ball on the sweet spot with a three dimensional Impact? I read somewhere that the "Happy Gilmore" swing actually increased Clubhead Speed. But they said it increased "Torque".
If your goal is gaining club-head speed, then:
Quote:
2-M-2 POWER REGULATION Clubhead Lag Pressure Point pressure (6-C) is the Power Regulator. It meters out Power by sensing Clubhead Acceleration Rate and Direction. That is:
To vary the Effective Clubhead Mass, vary
1. The Acceleration Rate (Lag Pressure 7-11)
2. The Swing Radius (length of the Primary Lever Assembly 6-B-0)
To vary Clubhead Speed, vary
3. Acceleration Time (Length of the Stroke 10-21)
4. The Release Interval (Centrifugal Reaction 6-N-0)
So it is optional to use any one or any combination of the four alternatives. Also study 12-0 in this connection.
Do you prefer a backswing with no plane shift? Or are you referring to eliminating it all in the downswing?
I think a loop can be matched with a pivot that can create a tremendous amount of speed. The only reason I'm mentioning a loop is in an effort to describe a shallowing out the downstroke of a steep backswing with early/multiple shifts.
Do you prefer a backswing with no plane shift? Or are you referring to eliminating it all in the downswing?
I think a loop can be matched with a pivot that can create a tremendous amount of speed. The only reason I'm mentioning a loop is in an effort to describe a shallowing out the downstroke of a steep backswing with early/multiple shifts.
I prefer Zero Shift in Both Directions. The Bottom right illustration is my Backstroke procedure. I call it a Single Shift but it is not Hazardous. The one on the Bottom Left is Hazardous.
If you want a really shallow impact, then move the ball closer to low point. Why do more?
D , I have to admit that I never understood that illustration. Kev Carter loves it so I know it has merit.
Homer said a Shoulder Turn Takeaway was always under plane, but yours doesnt appear to be. What is Extensor Action Takeaway to you? I thought it was a way of snapping the bent right, flat left of Adjusted into Impact Hands Condition for chipping or putting or full swings too I guess. Extensor Action at the #3pp pulling the Left Arm and the Shaft inline like pulling on both ends of piece of string. I dunno , I use EA at #1pp. Maybe Im missing something.
Look at the Illustration on the left. The hands stay under plane until they get the the end of the backstroke. Then, somehow, a miracle occurs and the Clubshaft, hands and right shoulder are against the same flat inclined plane. If the Hands and club-shaft switch planes during the backstroke, then how does that happen?
Look at the Illustration on the Right. Extensor Action Raises the Hands and Clubshaft to the TSP before the Backstroke is completed and allows the hands to sense the plane of the club-shaft. Both go to the end of the backstroke perfectly on-plane and ready for an on-plane down-stroke.
Zero shift is Zero shift. Both of the Illustrations above demonstrate a Single Plane Shift. But the one on the right is not as disruptive as the one on the left.
The illustration on the left show you to turn the shoulders and then lift the arms to the top of the swing. The one on the right shows you to lift the arms which then turns the shoulders to the top.
The illustration on the right shows a conscious effort to trace the plane-line all the way to the top of the swing.
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