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Old 08-23-2009, 10:09 PM
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Horizontal Hinging
The Following needs some critical evaluation.

True, False, Why? Yes, No, it depends, Right, Wrong, etc.

With Horizontal Hinging, the Left Wrist is Perpendicular to the Horizontal Plane / Vertical to the Ground at Low-Point, AND fully Uncocked. Because the Left Wrist is Uncocked by CF, the Right Wrist is also Uncocked at Low-Point.

With Hitting Patterns, when does the Left Wrist become Fully Uncocked? The Right Wrist?
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:36 PM
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Since no one is going to answer my question I will delete it!

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Old 08-23-2009, 11:22 PM
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What do mean by "uncocked" for the right hand? Vertical or horizontal motion? I think that the left wrist can uncock with the right hand keeping its same degree of bend, horizontally. Is this what you are referring to?

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Old 08-24-2009, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
What do mean by "uncocked" for the right hand? Vertical or horizontal motion? I think that the left wrist can uncock with the right hand keeping its same degree of bend, horizontally. Is this what you are referring to?
Yes.

If CF Uncocks the Left Wrist, then the Right Wrist Uncocks too.

When the Straightening of the Right Elbow Uncocks the Left Wrist, the Right Wrist can remain Bent and Level. When does the Right Wrist Uncock for the "Hitter"? When does the Left Wrist become fully Uncocked?
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:58 AM
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Im thinking the left wrist is on its way from level to fully uncocked post impact but not getting there until both arms straight. Way past low point. The right wrist at impact is level and shows its impact fix degree of bend (established and frozen by the hitter, or measured at fix and established dynamically during startup by the swinger using a swing back method). The degree of bend at fix is dependent on the shot at hand, ball position, shaft lean etc.

For Horizontal Hinging Im thinking that Both Arms Straight is more literal than for say Vertical or Angled where the right wrist would still show its Fix amount of bend. Clubhead travel being Hinge dependent. As a side bar its this characteristic of Angled Hinging and its associated travel that I think anyways, relates to the "swinging left" craze thats rocking the nation.

As to the right wrist going from level to otherwise. I dont try to do it. That would be a Haneyesque right hand throw would it not?

Are we in the Lab? Hope so, otherwise who are all these guys in white coats surrounding me right now?

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Old 08-24-2009, 11:56 AM
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Does Plane angle, such as Elbow vs. Turned Shoulder affect this?

Would an Elbow Plane have a Less uncocked Left Wrist than a Turned Shoulder Plane at Low Point?
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:11 PM
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Hmmm. Im thinking not necessarily. Manipulation or steering aside you could get to level on any plane angle Id imagine. Although as you get flatter you do approach an angle that is heel down in terms of the clubs lie angle. The vj trolio lob shot where you swing way below the hands plane requires the clubface to be opened way up to avoid the heel down problem. But you can still get to level with the left wrist. Try swinging on you knees to see what I mean.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:13 PM
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I Hit balls yesterday. I had to get back to watch the USA whoop Europe.



I noticed that my Left Wrist is uncocked at standard address. I hadn't paid any attention to that before.

I can't sense if the Left Wrist is Uncocked at Low Point or Both Arms Straight. The Ball trajectory and Flight are perfect.

But wouldn't you think that Plane Angle and Pulley size (endless belt effect) have an affect on where the Left Wrist becomes fully Uncocked?

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Old 08-24-2009, 12:31 PM
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Pulley I can see, not sure about Plane Angle.

The thing that I dont get about the endless belt analogy, is that given say Snap Release, Horizontal Hinging, Left ARm blastoff, Both Arms Straight, then a Finish Swivel and a re cocking............isnt it analogous to a small pulley wheel in Release and big pulley wheel in Finish Swivel? Maybe with a 10-3-J Pause type shot its small pulley and uncocked left wrist early and both arms straight early too, but with the left arm blasting off the chest like in a normal shot its isnt............ Dang now these guys in white lab coats are really gettin in my kitchen here. What the deuce.....

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