Learning and Applying TGM w/disabilities by a 21 hcp.

[innercityteacher]

On my way to the range will report back-but the Thrust against PP # 3 can only be gathered by "an equal and opposite reaction." Trying it will report back!

I feel like a bit of an idiot Air. Do you know the joke about 8 blind men trying to describe an elephant?

I have been looking at this upside down! The end of the story is "driving PP # 3 through China!" That's the answer!

The question, which covers everything else we talk about here, is "How do we drive PP # 3 through the ball?"

That's all there is to it! How do we drive pp# 3 through the ball?! We Swing, Hit or combine both. That is why Lynn is always telling us that the golf stroke is as easy as reaching for a glass of water, umm because it is!

That is why Homer's descriptions are so focussed. He reverse engineers everything from that moment, imho.

Now, I know there is a lot more to it than that, and Lynn and others understand I am simplifying to make a big point clear, but really, one moment is all we are talking about- PP # 3 through the ball!

I know Impact is not a station but that sort of proves my point. Impact is the train station we all wish to travel through on our way to the TRUTH!

Anyway, that moment of impact is like killing a cornered Tiger with a yard-stick. We can see the tiger but so what, the work is tricky!

I learned yesterday that RFT, Tracing, dropping the elbow, rolling the shoulder, turning the shoulder, thrusting the hip, pulling the handle, pulling PP # 3 to the Aiming point, throwing, swiveling, set-up etc. are all done more clearly at speed!

I do feel like a bit of an idiot!

ICT

[airair]

I feel like a bit of an idiot Air. Do you know the joke about 8 blind men trying to describe an elephant?

I have been looking at this upside down! The end of the story is "driving PP # 3 through China!" That's the answer!

The question, which covers everything else we talk about here, is "How do we drive PP # 3 through the ball?"

That's all there is to it! How do we drive pp# 3 through the ball?! We Swing, Hit or combine both. That is why Lynn is always telling us that the golf stroke is as easy as reaching for a glass of water, umm because it is!

That is why Homer's descriptions are so focussed. He reverse engineers everything from that moment, imho.

Now, I know there is a lot more to it than that, and Lynn and others understand I am simplifying to make a big point clear, but really, one moment is all we are talking about- PP # 3 through the ball!

I know Impact is not a station but that sort of proves my point. Impact is the train station we all wish to travel through on our way to the TRUTH!

Anyway, that moment of impact is like killing a cornered Tiger with a yard-stick. We can see the tiger but so what, the work is tricky!

I learned yesterday that RFT, Tracing, dropping the elbow, rolling the shoulder, turning the shoulder, thrusting the hip, pulling the handle, pulling PP # 3 to the Aiming point, throwing, swiveling, set-up etc. are all done more clearly at speed!

I do feel like a bit of an idiot!

ICT

I'm not sure if I understand what should make you an idiot. If you are an idiot - what does that make me??

# 3 PP should be so sensitiv and light that it can register the lag pressure in the downswing. It's not a death grip - on the contrary, I think.. at least for a swinger.

[innercityteacher]

Two eights and a seven = 94. Got too cute shooting at several pins and the ball went through the greens to places and bunkers I had never been in before. Angled Hinge allowed me to shoot at pins but I'm still Hitting 5 and 6 irons at pins so I have to remember to hit shorter shots and let them bounce and release to the hole. I also am rolling into new fairway bunkers I could never reach before. Played with "turning left" ala Hogan and Swinging and got solid contact with better distances. Guess it's time to pick an approach and learn to navigate with it!

[innercityteacher]

Pretty Neat huh?

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=56204&highlight=wheel+rim#post562 04

Stationary Head and Pre-turned hip, Angle Hinge, and Cross-line Thrust. 2 putts a hole, chip it close with Angle Hinge,

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Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 9,964 Different Strokes armourall wrote: Yoda wrote: armourall wrote: golfingrandy wrote: armourall wrote: golfingrandy wrote: armourall wrote: Does your Hitting procedure include a pre-turned right hip? If you are not using a pre-set or pre-turn of the hips in Hitting then you are incorrectly applying the procedure. Randy, I have to admit I still don't get the necessity of a pre-turned right hip. If my right elbow easily clears the right hip with the hips square (I also use a delayed hip action), are there any other reasons why the hips would need to be pre-turned? Since your assumption is that my procedure is incorrect (and it may be), are there other "warning signs" that would tell me my takeaway is flawed? I would never be so presumptuous to state that your procedure is incorrect (now the 4-barrel disscusion is another story ). If you are Hitting and you do not get the right hip out of the way, the path of the hands will be very similar to a fish hook. I like the lawnmower example. Same is true on the downswing if one does not have a positive hip movement, the hands will go around. Hitting is straight line. The reason is that this is the only way to avoid CF in Hitting, which would be desirable. When one allows CF to creep into there Hitting procedure, soon throwaway will be present. Remember, which has been stated here and elsewhere, that Homer preferred the hands for Hitting to begin at their impact location and that one would use a frozen right wrist. So go to that alignment and try to take the hands directly to the top without getting the right hip out of the way. Randy... OK, I've tried to INTENTIONALLY make my right elbow collide with my right hip on the takeaway (starting from my normal hands at impact position), but no matter what I do, it clears. Any ideas why I'm getting away with it? (I frequently use a flashlight to trace the plane, and I'm dead on.) Armourall, First time I've seen this stuff. Sorry to be so late getting here. I think the reason you are having so little trouble with your Plane Line Tracing is that you are Tracing Plane Line of 10-5-A. This is the Plane Line Traced by the Swinger using the On Line Arc of Approach Procedure. Here the Pre-Turned Right Hip is helpful but not essential. However, when Hitting, you should be using the Closed Plane Line of 10-5-E. This is the Plane Line visually Covered -- not Traced! -- by the Hitter using the Cross Line Angle of Approach Procedure. Here, unless you are transparent, you must Clear the Right Hip or you will be unable to Cover this Steep Plane Line and properly Fan the Right Forearm. But doesn't 12-1-0 specify 10-5-A for Hitting? Good question, Armourall. And a complete answer provides the opportunity toclear Major League Fog. You have correctly and perceptively observed that the Square Plane Line (10-5-A)is listed as the Plane Line Component (#5) for the Drive Loading Basic Patternof 12-1-0. In contrast, my post recommended the Closed Plane Line (10-5-E). Themissing link is Homer's dual purpose in creating the Basic StrokePatterns of Chapter 12. His first objective was to present the Basic Uncompensated Stroke forboth Hitting (12-1-0) and Swinging (12-2-0). The second was to permit theplayer to interchange those patterns -- both when learning them andin using them in actual play -- with a minimum of disruption totheir original Basic Pattern. To accomplish this second objective, he variedthe respective Components only as absolutely necessary to accomodate thenature of each, i.e., the Push (Drive Loading) or the Pull (DragLoading). The Straight Plane Line of 10-5-A is the true Geometric Plane Line andas such, it is the Basic Delivery Line for both Hitting andSwinging(2-J-3). Swingers actively Trace -- point at -- this Straight Line asthe simplified alternative to Monitoring the Curved Arc of the ClubheadBlur through the Impact Point and Low Point. In Tracing the Straight Plane Lineof 10-5-A -- the On Line Procedure -- the Swinger automatically producesthe correct Visual Arc of Approach (2-J-3-A)-- the curved Path of theClubhead Blur -- through Impact. As stated above, Hitters may use this same Basic Delivery Line. In sodoing, they likewise will produce the On Line Arc of ApproachProcedure. However, unlike Swingers, they have an additional option, and thatis the Cross Line Angle of Approach procedure. The Angle ofApproach is that Straight Line drawn between the Impact Point and Low Point(2-J-3-B and Sketch 2-C-1-#3). As long as the Clubhead passes through those twopoints, the Angle of Approach and the Arc of Approach are Geometric Equivalents. The Closed Plane Line of 10-5-E can be erected on the Angle of Approach, and itsBaseline (by definition) will cross the Straight Plane Line of 10-5-A and pointto "Right Field." It is not practical for the Swinger to use thisalternative Plane Line to Deliver the Clubhead into Impact. This is because hesenses a Circular "Wheel Rim" Whirling Motion of his Orbiting Handsthrough the Three Stations, i.e., from the Address to the Top andthrough Impact to the Finish. This Swinging Motion is much bettersuited to the On Line (Arc of Approach) Procedure and is best produced byTracing the Straight Plane Line of 10-5-A. The Hitter, however, does not experience the Wheel Rim sensation of theOrbiting Hands. Instead of a 'Swinging' Motion of the Hands in theBackstroke, he senses a 'Carrying' Motion. And instead of a CircularWhirling Motion through the Ball, he senses a decided Straight LineThrust (of the Driving Right Arm). And this Thrust lends itself ideallyto the Cross Line Angle of Approach Procedure. For the Hitter, then, the two Procedures -- On Line (Arc of Approach) andCross Line (Angle of Approach) -- are interchangeable. And to satisfyHomer's second Stroke Pattern objective -- as much consistency aspossible between the two Basic Patterns (Drive and Drag) -- he listed theSquare Plane Line of 10-5-A as Component #5 for both. He also advised that theplayer should avoid customizing either until the "expert" stage wasreached. If you have not yet reached that stage, then stay with 10-5-A forHitting. However, if you have, then per 2-J-3, the Cross Line 'Hit' ispreferred to the On Line 'Hit' and the customization of the Basic12-1-0 Pattern is warranted. The On Line 'Swing' remains the preferredProcedure for 12-2-0, whether the player has reached the expert stage or not. And this brings us back to Square One -- the need for the Pre-Turned Right Hip.Interestingly, both Stroke Patterns list the Delayed Hip Action (10-15-B) asthe Basic Hip Action Component (#15). Its Pre-Turned Right Hip is helpfulto players using the On Line Swing because it assures that the Hipwill be properly Cleared in the Backstroke, thus permitting the Hands toexecute the mandatory Three Dimensional Backstroke (2-F). It also offers more 'RightForearm Fanning' room in Start Up than the Standard Action of 10-15-A. However, while the Pre-Turned Right Hip is helpful to the On LineSwinger it is essential to the Cross Line Hitter. His Closed Plane Lineproduces a Cross Line Clubhead Path and with it, a Right Hip—Right Elbowconflict. This Path (and its problematic Hip—Elbow conflict) may be preciselyidentified by observing the On Plane Right Forearm Angle of Approach inImpact Fix and the parallel Clubhead Angle of Approach through Impact.And the curious fact is that your Hands simply will not take the Club backon that Line if your Right Hip is in the way. And it is! You can tell them-- out loud if you wish -- that you will move the Hip immediately in Start Up,but they will not believe you. As Homer used to say, "The Hands just won'tbuy it." And so they just 'go around' the Hip and take the Club Off Planein the process. So, if you're going to Cross Line Hit, you must Pre-Turn theRight Hip. And since the Pre-Turned Hip is perfectly acceptable (and even advisable)for On Line Swingers as well, Homer made it the Basic Hip Action Component for bothBasic Stroke Patterns. Why should you have to spend years learning andusing Standard Hip Action -- with On Line Swinging or On Line Hitting orboth -- only to find out that the Pre-Turned Hip of Delayed Hip Action ismandated by the more sophisticated Cross Line Hit? And then be forced to startall over again learning a new Hip Action Component and then integrating itinto your Basic Pattern? Or else forego The Joy of Cross Line Hitting. You see, Homer knew long before you did that you would be following him downthis road, and he wanted to make your transition as easy as possible. Pretty neat, don't you think? __________________ Yoda

[innercityteacher]

Reporting in... Hitting front 9=49 yikes short w/bad chips! Swinging left =42 on back 9 with one birdy, 4 birdy attempts and 1 over for my last 5 holes!

ICT

[innercityteacher]

I didn't realize this but should have. thanks Air1


http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2030

It also felt like it was just in the perfect spot for everything to happen. Hinge action, uncocking left wrist, rolling. etc. Just amazing.
That's the feeling, Nathan.

When the Right Shoulder, Right Forearm, and #3 Pressure Point drive the Lever Assemblies (Left Arm and Club) toward the Plane Line (1-L-#10), all at right angles to the Clubshaft/Sweetspot (1-L-#11), there are no conflicting alignments. Then, the Downstroke becomes one cohesive Motion from the Top to the Finish with everything 'all lined up.'

As Homer Kelley said of that serendipitous moment...

"Where did all the noise go?"
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Yoda

[innercityteacher]

On the range-hot 93 degrees, sticky, air like soup. RFT-Angle of Approach-best distance and control (splitting targets) combination. Lag, drag mid-body hands stepping left-hit fades all day 2nd best distance.,

Tried throwing my right shoulder at the baseline (Impact Fix, after RFT) of the plane-ball went higher and shorter so I moved the ball back in my stance, way back to guaranteed inner quadrant strikes as the club came down and got straight balls with pretty good distance. Had to monitor the path of the club face to be certain of Impact but now I understand how better players seem to come much more DOWN on the ball and the ball is much more back.

My accuracy is fine for hybrid through wedges with Angle of Approach and small fades. I need to improve my chips and putting and buy an RPG to use as a driver! LOL! ; >

[innercityteacher]

Also had a lot of fun last night imitating Lynn's vertically uncocking left wrist video and the difference between Hitting and Swinging (with Ted Fort). It was fun throwing my left wrist at the Plane and having my right shoulder ... "Spin, spin, spin like a flywheel... And it's rather quick" And my ball did behave ... "a whole lot differently." Indeed, it was a nice high flight with a little shorter distance, very smooth impact feeling, very accurate.


I have to remember to keep my left wrist flat at Impact Fix and not allow that quarter turn as if I were Swinging and remember the alignment of # 3 ( with closed web) in line with PP # 1 (left thumb).

[innercityteacher]

I need to work with this!

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O.B.Left
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Yes this is the stuff of dinner conversation. Food for thought.

Hank Hanney's book I believe outlines a right wrist throw. We G.O.L.F ers wouldnt be able to do it, our right hands kept level throughout the swing, our Right Forearms Flying Wedges intact. You can not throw something that isnt cocked after all. Hank teaches right wrist cocking I imagine. You could maybe push it, on plane with an actively extending right elbow but then we'd be in the Lab and not in this fine dinning room. On Plane, Sequenced release and thrusting anyone?

With the left hand turned to the plane the G.O.L.F er can if he so chooses throw the club shaft downplane, actively uncocking the #2 Accumulator Angle. An on plane hammer like uncocking with the Left Arm Flying Wedge remaining intact. Vertical left wrist motion as opposed to Horizontal. Both Wedges are intact actually. A non Automatic Sequenced Release that on camera will, interestingly, often show a later release for the former downswing blackout , sweep release types. And some added zip to the ball.

Its all about overtaking again and how to do it correctly. Impact Alignments. The left arm blast off ensuring that overtaking doesnt happen until after Follow Through, both arms straight. But without a trace of "hold off". Especially if you actively employ a Throw. You cant hold off and throw out at the same time, I dont think.

For me personally, when I start flipping it early I check my Lag Loading but also make sure Im employing a Throw. As if my Impact Alignments need a little help from the Throw Out action to make it all the way to Follow Through with out the clubhead scooting past the hands. Thats where Im at these days anyways.

[innercityteacher]

More to try!


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Boss Hands
Originally Posted by bantamben1

lynn do you purposely not have much hip and shoulder turn in this stroke because it is an acquired motion.
Whatever has to move, bantamben, moves. If it doesn't have to move, it doesn't.

The Hands dictate (the alignments).

The Body complies.

That said, because of the camera angle, there is more Turn of both the Hips and Shoulders than meets the eye. Compare the first row of frames (1-3) with the fourth (13-15).

But the real key is Downstroke Pivot Lag.

My Hips Lag my Shoulders going away, and then my Shoulders Lag my Hips coming through (Delayed Hip Action / 10-15-B). The Downstroke differential between the Leading Hips and the Lagging Shoulders -- specifically, the Right Shoulder -- creates a Pull that Loads and then greatly assists the Delivery of the Power Package Down Plane to Release (6-B-4-C). From there the Swinger Throws Out the Club with Left Wrist Uncocking Action (10-20-E) and the Hitter Drives Out the Club with Right Elbow Straightening Action (10-20-B).