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Old 01-15-2011, 12:52 AM
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I've seen D's Hip Action........he's got rhythm. Small "r" variety and capital R too.

I like the dance off idea though. Maybe it could be pay per view or skype or something so we can all watch it.

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Old 01-15-2011, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post

Here's for those of you who sees the difference between the same RPM and the same basic RPM:

The physics of this overtaking is such that the hands will be slowed down during the overtaking and the flat left wrist will break down prior to impact - unless the golfer does something to prevent it.

Here's a double pendulum model you can play with: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~plynch/Swin...ependulum.html

Notice how the "flat left wrist" (the first mass) stalls and collapses shortly after the "club" (the second mass) is released.

Hit restart a few times and watch the "stroke". Then change parameters. Increase the first mass significantly and see what happens.

Of course in the golf stroke we have to substitute this mass increase with lag pressure regulation (linear force).
First of all, this is a great dialog that I didn't expect. I like the civil discourse.

No doubt the hands slow as the heavy clubhead begins overtaking at release. But there is also a supporting mechanism; that is a turning left shoulder and an extending right arm (paddlewheel motion) providing resistance, because they are supporting the flat left wrist and intended hinge action through impact. If this is part of what you mean by Basic Rhythm then I think I understand where you are coming from.

Homer used crankshaft RPM as the model. Even though the piston is connected to a crankshaft spinning at 3000RPM, the piston is going from 0 to 75MPH in less than 9 inches (my rough estimate). If there was a way to measure piston RPM, it would be much higher than the crankshaft as it accelerates to full extension, but that's not the what the gauge on my car is measuring. In the golfing machine, the crankshaft is the left arm flying wedge rotating through impact. Everything supporting that includes spark plugs, fuel, air, and oil. If those are out of whack, its time for a tune up.
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:51 AM
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Im just reading all of these posts for the first time. Interesting stuff.

Hope Im not covering old ground but BerntR from a pure golf perspective Ive always considered the flat left wrist to be a Rhythm enabler and "ROLLING" as a Flat Left Wrist maintainer. Is this correct in a scientific sense or is this just a golfer talking feels or something?

To my mind its as if the left wrist will be broken by an insurmountable force unless its rolled in some manner. Hence you cant try to merely hold it flat , you have to Roll it flat..... to coin a phrase.

My apologies if Im digressing or regressing conversationally.

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Old 01-15-2011, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

Hope Im not covering old ground but BerntR from a purely golf perspective Ive always considered the flat left wrist to be a Rhythm enabler and "ROLLING" as a Flat Left Wrist maintainer. Is this correct in a scientific sense or is this just a golfer talking feels or something?

To my mind its as if the left wrist will be broken by an insurmountable force unless its rolled in some manner. Hence you cant try to merely hold it flat , you have to Roll it flat..... to coin a phrase.

My apologies if Im digressing or regressing conversationally.
Yes-sir. On both.

I had a light bulb go on a few years back when Ted told me about roll'in. I'm a steer'in kinda guy and that cured my illness of steer'in and flip'in and cow tip'in. Not really, I still tip cows.

There are only two people who are allowed to apologize on this site when posting and you ain't one of em.
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance View Post
Yes-sir. On both.

I had a light bulb go on a few years back when Ted told me about roll'in. I'm a steer'in kinda guy and that cured my illness of steer'in and flip'in and cow tip'in. Not really, I still tip cows.

There are only two people who are allowed to apologize on this site when posting and you ain't one of em.
Hah thats funny it was Ted who pointed that Rollin thing out to me too. Kinda works pretty good doesnt it? If you're Steering the face and left hand straight to the hole and swinging at speed ........that left wrist will break. Your Taly'll get all messed up. But if you Roll your Taly.......so to speak.

Homer said that a student of his had a swing that improved just by understanding the proper impact geometry and the ball flight laws, nothing else. An intellectual cure for Steering.

Digression and regression at the same time? Now were getting somewhere.

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Old 01-15-2011, 12:31 PM
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Yes-sir. On both.

I had a light bulb go on a few years back when Ted told me about roll'in.
Is this what you mean for the veiwing audience?

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Watch the first five and a half minutes. Ted at his best.
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OK, I apologize!
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Yes-sir. On both.

I had a light bulb go on a few years back when Ted told me about roll'in. I'm a steer'in kinda guy and that cured my illness of steer'in and flip'in and cow tip'in. Not really, I still tip cows.

There are only two people who are allowed to apologize on this site when posting and you ain't one of em.
I'm really sorry and I'll try to do better!


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Old 01-15-2011, 01:57 PM
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I'm really sorry and I'll try to do better!


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Sorry, you aren't allowed to apologize.

The whereabouts of the members who can apologize are unknown. They are most likely snowbound somewhere on the Eastern seaboard.
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Old 01-15-2011, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
Is this what you mean for the veiwing audience?

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Watch the first five and a half minutes. Ted at his best.

Isnt that great! Now thats how Homer's Impact Geometry and the Alignments that relate directly to it can be taught to the masses.

Ted's right down where it matters , where the rubber meets the road, this is the stuff that kids who learn the game with ease do that old hackers never get right.
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Tempo and rhythm
Is this video relevant?

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