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Old 01-15-2011, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
In the Photo below, this tennis player is swinging on a Horizontal Plane. She has a Right Forearm Flying wedge that is Identified by the Red Lines. She won't flip the wrist but will bring the wedge to Impact, intact with the Bent Right Wrist.

I'm sorry, where is the flying wedge and red line in that picture???

Shes swinging on who's plane?
I'm a little distracted.
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:47 AM
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Address. Bobby's address is a three-step routine to set up the inclined plane for clubshaft guidance, the knee and waist bend needed to hold the head still, a palms together grip with the left wrist flat (not bent either way), level (neither cocked or uncocked), and vertical (to the ground, not rotated), and to rehearse all the selected relationships and alignments including a through the ball plane line (base edge of plane), and the waggle to establish clubhead feel against the first joint of the right forefinger. This is not a clubshaft "feel" but the sensing of the longitudinal center of gravity (sweet spot plane of rotation). That pressure point is used like the lens of a flashlight strapped to the right forearm to shine its light along the plane line during takeaway and release. The left hand is not held square to the target line but closes (like a door) for true rhythmic power generation.
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I'm not as limber as Mr.Clampett but I can do quiet feet and an RFT.

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Backstroke. After the address routine and a preliminary turn of the right hip, the right forearm takes the hands and clubhead back-up-and-in simultaneously and instantaneously and the shoulder turn is as flat as possible and independent of the takeaway action. The left knee flexes only enough to keep the head still and hold it in a strong solid position. Bobby's right elbow appears unusually high here which may be intentional and for a purpose. It appears to be a shoulder turn takeaway action. That always produces an automatic and unintentional shift from a flat first plane to a steeper plane at the top. That could lock a player into a pivot controlled hands procedure unless carefully realigned during the interval at the top. Then it can again be the Golfing Machine hands controlled pivot procedure.
So the RFT rolls the left knee in enough to form a solid brace of the head, but it is subtle.

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he Top.The clubshaft parallel to the ground must also be parallel to the base line of the plane (plane line). When not parallel it must be pointing at it. All elements of the stroke must be adjusted and aligned during this particular interval in order to move precisely toward the plane line guided by the #3 pressure point (right forefinger clubhead feel). The shoulder turn function here is to place the right shoulder precisely on the inclined plane. Therefore it is mandatory that the steeper the plane the shorter the shoulder turn and foot and knee action must be no more than needed to accomplish those relationships.
Oops, there it is! Shorter shoulder turn and quiet foot and knees in support!
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Old 01-15-2011, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance View Post
I'm sorry, where is the flying wedge and red line in that picture???

Shes swinging on who's plane?
I'm a little distracted.

Notice the 10-2 Double D grip?
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Old 01-15-2011, 03:11 AM
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Small Moves/Powerful Moves!


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Start Down. It is recommended that the hip turn be preceded by a hip slide parallel to the plane line so body power (the coiled left side) then can pull the butt of the clubshaft and the right shoulder toward the plane line before the pivot can turn itself too far inside the plane line and have to stretch unnecessarily to reach the ball. This also disrupts the pivot component release sequence necessary for this swinging procedure of longitudinal acceleration of the clubhead which duplicates the process of pulling an arrow from a quiver which motion is to be maintained until the release swiches ends with adjustable rapidity. The knees passing through the sit down position maintains the left side assignment of turning the body to generate centrifugal force. Power package muscle power (right triceps thrust) can make a miniscule contribution and only with great effort during a swing procedure.
A slight forward hip slide leads everything down! Hitters can hit if they want to! But it is a hip slide, not a knee slide which would throw the machine off balance.

That's what I got so far, anyway!

Oops, nice summary by Yoda!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ad#p ost25771 #8

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'Swaying Knees' (the Zone 1 Pivot aberration that caused the
Dipping Left Shoulder) have nothing to do with the Delayed Hit (the
sophisticated application of Zone 2 Power). To the extent possible,
the Head and Knees remain Stationary during the Stroke. Between these two
extremes -- the Stationary Head and the Stationary Knees and Feet -- the
Shoulders Turn, the Hips Turn and Shift and the Spine Tilts. If you "Sway"
the Knees, you Sway the Stroke. Or Bob the Stroke. Or both. Not a good thing

I don't know if I'll look like Steve Stricker if I can do this, but I think I will hit the ball better!

Thanks, Lynn, HK, BC, and my fellow Americans!

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Old 01-15-2011, 03:29 AM
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Thank goodness I'm not afraid of a little thread jacking!
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Notice the 10-2 Double D grip?
I hope that girl didn't hurt herself!


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Old 01-15-2011, 08:56 AM
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TGM can apply to any sport in which a stick hits a ball. The same Laws of Force and Motion that govern the Golf Swing also govern other sports. TGM is about applying those Laws.

In Tennis, the Player Accumulates, Stores, Delivers and Releases Power. Tennis as in Golf, Levers are used to multiply the Force of the Pivot. Potential Energy - Kinetic Energy.

If the Science is correct, then shouldn't it's application be wide spread?
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Old 01-15-2011, 01:24 PM
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TGM can apply to any sport in which a stick hits a ball. The same Laws of Force and Motion that govern the Golf Swing also govern other sports. TGM is about applying those Laws.

In Tennis, the Player Accumulates, Stores, Delivers and Releases Power. Tennis as in Golf, Levers are used to multiply the Force of the Pivot. Potential Energy - Kinetic Energy.

If the Science is correct, then shouldn't it's application be wide spread?
Science, I mean the technical aspects of science, are neutral. A spoon can help feed a Haitian who is malnourished or Whoopi Goldberg who has not missed a meal in, ummmm, several years, let's say.

A gun can be used by a store owner to protect himself and his family from a thug or it can be used by a punk who does not bother with the niceties that infringe upon law-abiding people threatening them for no apparent reason or purpose.

A microphone can be used to deliver a speech that comforts or distorts a memorial service by turning it into a pep-ralley.

What I like about LBG is that Lynn and his peeps put out real golf technique that is complete and sensible AND THEN PATIENTLY EXPLAIN IT TO GOLFERS.

GOD BLESS AMERICA, WE NEED IT!

Could we get an American Flag smiley or something patriotic for the only super-power in the world that gives away more money every month to the poor of the world and its citizens (and its illegals) than all the nations put together ever did...whose armed forces stop dozens of tyrants from inflicting even more misery on their own people than they do otherwise?!

You don't have to agree with me, but if you try to stop me from exercising my God-given freedoms (that's right, given to everyone, everywhere) well, bring your golf game and name the course!


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Old 01-15-2011, 04:27 PM
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More on the bio-mechanical science of golf.
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
TGM can apply to any sport in which a stick hits a ball. The same Laws of Force and Motion that govern the Golf Swing also govern other sports. TGM is about applying those Laws.

In Tennis, the Player Accumulates, Stores, Delivers and Releases Power. Tennis as in Golf, Levers are used to multiply the Force of the Pivot. Potential Energy - Kinetic Energy.

If the Science is correct, then shouldn't it's application be wide spread?

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Dear Larry,

I just wanted to say that I am a Bobby Jones fan. I've watched his tapes so much that the picture is no longer clear. The beauty of Bobby Jones was that he had the three imperatives on every shot, and he was also a master of the three "essentials" (a stationary head, balance and rhythm). I believe he had a triple shift plane angle variation ( 10-7-D) which he repeated masterfully. The beauty of TGM is that it allows for everything that Bobby did and gives students and teachers so many options. Bobby Jones said in his tapes and book to "do what's most natural." If a teacher can see what a student's natural tendencies are and work within those confines and not violate a flat left wrist at impact, hands leading a trailing clubhead and an on plane downswing, then that student is doing what Bobby said. That student is "doing what's most natural." Have a great day!



Good thoughts, JG33,

In an earlier post (somewhere!) I discussed the ideal nature of the NoncompensatedStroke Patterns of Chapter 12. But I did not make the point you havecorrectly made (and that Homer made in 1-H). Namely:

"There is little excuse for forcingthe average week-end golfer -- who has some strong tendency or other --to adopt any procedure or Stroke Pattern that calls for the elimination of thattendency. It is far easier to develop a Stroke Pattern that properlycompensates for it. Change the factors that are easily controlled to fitthose that are difficult to change."


Good advice.

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Stationary Head, Balance and Rhythm. Bobby Jones, eh? Yoda? Oh yeah, we are in right universe, solar system, planet, and website.

So, nothing I practice will be practiced without a quiet head, knees and feet.

Now to find some drills!

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Old 01-15-2011, 10:25 PM
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More definitive Stationary Head instruction!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...tationary+head # 4

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Homer Kelley On The Stationary Head
Originally Posted by Mathew
He doesn't advocate a stationary head (per 2-0)- where his head stays right in the center of his stance... but then Homer suggested it was only recommended and not a nessesity. He suggests a preliminary tilting of his axis bring his head over his right leg....
Homer Kelley designated the Stationary Head as the First Essential of the Golf Stroke (1-L #1/#2; 2-0-A-1). He insisted that this Head Position be established at Impact Fix in compliance with the Knee Bend and Waist Bend necessary to allow the Right Forearm to point at the Plane Line per its own Angle of Approach (7-3).

None of the six published editions of The Golfing Machine specifically advocate the 'Center of the Stance' Head position. Nevertheless, a glance at the reference marker behind the model's Centered Head in the photos of 9-1 and 9-2 make Homer's thoughts clear. He codified this recommendation in his as yet unpublished 7th edition. Here he articulates his Pivot Swing Center Tripod concept and states that the Head should be positioned "precisely between the Feet."

Two final thoughts:

1. The Head Center reference marker in 9-1 remains in place through the Finish of the Stroke. However, I believe that Homer would have no problem -- for reasons of flexibility or personal preference -- with letting the Head and Body rise into the Finish. That is because all Acceleration has ceased by the end of the Follow-Through and only momentum carries the Player to the Finish. This view is further substantiated by Homer's own thoughts on the Plane in 2-F, wherein he states that all components must comply 'from Waggle to Follow-Through.'

2. In his Master Classes, he acknowledged that the Head may be located elsewhere at Fix. In such instances, he advised that the Head remain in that position.
I never would have thought to establish the head at Impact Fix but it is logical since IF is the biggest deal of all positions!

Whether the head is at IF or centered, it must be STATIONARY!!! Use the eyes to monitor stationary aspect.

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How not to loose your head in learning a good golf stroke!


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Establishing the Correct Head Location
hue wrote:

YOda: You said

"The correct Head position is established at Impact Fix (8-2; 7-8 ). Once determined, the Head should remain Stationary (the First Essential per 2-0-A-1 and 1-L-1). Monitor your Impact Fix Head Location carefully. It will probably be somewhat lower than your present position."

How does this relate to the head position at address? Do you like to see the head/neck position at address to be very close to what it should be at impact fix ? What do you think of the head up attitude at address of players like Adam Scott and Ty Tryon which differ greatly from their head position at impact? Thanks.
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hue,

By Address, you are presumably referring to Adjusted Address, Section 3 (8-3)of the Stroke. Once established, the Impact Fix Head Location remainsStationary. That includes each Section of the Stroke from Impact Fix,Section 2 (8-2), through the end of the Follow-Through, Section 11 (8-11).

To answer your question, there is no separate Adjusted Address Location thatmay or may not be "close" to Impact Fix. Adjusted Address HeadLocation has been previously determined at Impact Fix and isImpact Fix Head Location. In other words, Section 3 of the Stroke followsSection 2, not the other way around!

And the same is true for Sections 4 through 11.

Use the Magic of the Right Forearm with the Bending of the RightElbow (7-3) to begin your Start Up. Otherwise, your frozen Right Armwill lock you into a Pivot-Controlled Stroke and also, an almost certain lossof the Stationary Head. Properly executed, this bending of the RightElbow will in no way compromise the Extensor Action (6-B-1-D) ofthe Right Triceps.

Practice this Magic Move diligently with your Wedge using a Motion nobigger than the Acquired Motion of 12-5-2 and its level-to-the-ground RightForearm at the Top.

As far as the idiosyncrasies of the various players, the tilt of the chin --up, down, backward or forward -- matters little as long as the Stationary Headis maintained. Most do not maintain this position, of course, andtherefore they must compensate per 2-J-1.

Or miss the Shot.

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RFT will help maintain a Stationary Head. If set for Impact Fix and Hitting the head will be slightly forward (I need to study what makes good IF) and stay there! If Swinging, then centered and Stationary there, too.

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