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Old 03-04-2009, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Thanks Drewit

Great post. Ive copied it to my TGM file.

ob


PS That right elbow is getting even more important in my perception of things. The right elbow controlling the roll of #3 power accumulator and the right elbow being held in position by extensor action. Fantastic. No more swiveling through impact with a behaving itself right elbow. The right elbow also cocks the left wrist. Didnt Homer say if he had to do over again he'd build his swing around the right elbow? Or something to that effect.
Right elbow motion and alignments throughout the swing are very, very, very important. Building a golf swing around the right elbow would produce precision and power in the golf swing. Weekend golfers have the right elbow moving incorrectly and out of alignment for most of the swing and try all the golf tips and nonsense to fix the faults when fixing right elbow motion and alignments would do the job.

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Old 03-04-2009, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Guitar Man View Post
Right elbow motion and alignments throughout the swing are very, very, very important. Building a golf swing around the right elbow would produce precision and power in the golf swing. Weekend golfers have the right elbow moving incorrectly and out of alignment for most of the swing and try all the golf tips and nonsense to fix the faults when fixing right elbow motion and alignments would do the job.

To Better Golf,
John W Rohan-Weaver GSEM



Thanks Guitar Man.

Then there is John Daly's problem with the right elbow bending too often ...

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Old 03-04-2009, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
Rhythm (roll of the #3 Accumulator) is controlled by the Right Elbow, bending and straightening. So how do we control this Right Elbow that wants to be all over the place? Hope you guessed...by the left arm and the Extensor Action that turns the Left Arm into a leasch. When you control the Right Elbow you control the rate of Clubhead Closing or RPM's (6-B-1-D-3).


Sure enough when I got home and checked my book there was a little question mark besides 6-B-1-D-3. That question mark has been erased and replaced with a little notation. More understanding and hopefully more precision to follow.

Thanks again Drewit.

PS Per 7-3 Basic Strokes......"So, Right Elbow Action either powers and/or controls all three elements of Three Dimensional Impact (6-C-0) per 1-L-9. All this you will come to know as THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM."

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Old 03-05-2009, 08:02 AM
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so how dos one control the right elbow, what is the correct feel?
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Old 03-05-2009, 08:32 AM
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so how dos one control the right elbow, what is the correct feel?
I think it has to do with 10-3 Elbow positions. Punch for hitting (piston downplane toward the ball), pitch for swinging (skipping rocks onplane).



Drew, or someone in the know: Please elaborate on the EA through pp#3 and EA through pp#1. Why is the first superior to the other?
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:24 PM
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I think it has to do with 10-3 Elbow positions. Punch for hitting (piston downplane toward the ball), pitch for swinging (skipping rocks onplane).



Drew, or someone in the know: Please elaborate on the EA through pp#3 and EA through pp#1. Why is the first superior to the other?



Hey Thom Ill give it a shot if you dont mind.

IMO, EA via pp #1 is the superior method for full shots. EA at pp #3 being more of a short shot technique where starting at adjusted address the application of EA at #3 straightens the clubshaft AND the left arm in line thereby flattening the left wrist and bending the right. A short shot Loading Action although not so popular anymore, most people starting at fix with impact hands.

This procedure if improperly executed may cause Throwaway however. Per 6-B-1-D Homer advises; " In which case, use only the #1 Pressure Point and pull on the Left Thumb to then hold AT LEAST the Left Arm in-line and retain Power Package structural rigidity." (caps by me)


I may be wrong, but I think this all has to do with increased grip pressure at the #3 pressure point promoting its incorrect use in a direct drive manner as opposed to its normal indirect drive with light grip pressure. The #3 normally only sensing the lag not driving the back of the club. Of the three pressure points in the hands only #3 is indirect the others #1,2 are direct drive points of contact between the Power Accumulators and the Club. Clubhead lag as sensed at #3 is not a Power Accumulator as its release is a loss of power. It has no release point. Any attempt to release it causing a shortening in the swing radius via a bending left wrist, Throwaway.

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Old 03-05-2009, 03:24 PM
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EA through pp#1 is the way I do it. With hitting, it just feels so easy and structered to have EA and thrust down on the left thumb and the feel of clubhead lag on pp#3.

So for me it's a little difficult to get why EA through pp#3 has some kind of superiority to EA through pp#1. That's what I would like someone to explain.
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Thom View Post
EA through pp#1 is the way I do it. With hitting, it just feels so easy and structered to have EA and thrust down on the left thumb and the feel of clubhead lag on pp#3.

So for me it's a little difficult to get why EA through pp#3 has some kind of superiority to EA through pp#1. That's what I would like someone to explain.

Hi Thom

Where in the book is the superiority of EA at pp#3 mentioned? Im trying to find it my 6th edition.

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Old 03-05-2009, 10:02 PM
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All You Need To Know About Extensor Action
Years ago, the great mutual fund manager Peter Lynch made the following comment regarding the economy (versus companies, their stocks and the general market):
"If you spend one hour a year studying the economy, you've wasted 30 minutes."
I feel somewhat the same way when discussing the golfer's Extensor Action.

Read my post #27 here: http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...?t=5653&page=3.

Understand the Extensor Action Principle as defined and demonstrated in the post. Then, translate the Mechanic into its Feel.

Don't rely on your imagination: Put on a long sleeve shirt, sweater or jacket and actually do the 'armless sleeve' exercise. Keep that sleeve s-t-r-e-t--c-h-e-d from Address to Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). Then, make that Action happen in your Golf Stroke.

It's all you need to know.

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Old 03-05-2009, 10:38 PM
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It is exactly the image of the armless sleeve that confuses the direction of EA.
When power accumulator #3 is assembled and the left arm rotates, it seems the left arm and the clubshaft are both on plane and travel up the plane together. During this excursion, it seems that any stretching of the left arm must by definition be on plane. For sure, when the club shaft is parallel to the plane line on the ground, the shaft is on plane and EA pulls along the line of the shaft, no?
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