Return of the Snap Release?

[golfguru]

I have the now ancient F1 and many of the super slows in here are from its visit to Cuscowilla. 300 fps is plenty without having to wait an eternity to watch a swing

Thanks for the image MJ, mucho clearer what you meant.

[MizunoJoe]

I have the now ancient F1 and many of the super slows in here are from its visit to Cuscowilla. 300 fps is plenty without having to wait an eternity to watch a swing

Thanks for the image MJ, mucho clearer what you meant.

Thanks for that number. The EX-FC150 can do up to 1020 fps(I think). I've read that 120 fps is the minimum to insure getting all the benchmark positions. I'm still trying to figure out the thing and still don't know exactly what speed choices I have.

[whip]

would i be correct in guessing that lag pressure would be harder to meter out with maximum trigger delay and snap release? as we know a shorter club can go further into release than the longer clubs. so for a player who really cranks down the snap release naturally choking up might not necessarily take any distance off of a shot, forcing the player to meter out power some other way to play a less than full power shot, and to me it seems with that short of release time lag pressure would be hard to dial in anything other than full. i suppose it depends on the player's sensations and skill. there are advantages and disadvantages to every stroke pattern. I'm sticking to random sweep

[whip]

compda opened the thread with a very good snap release using a non-maximum pitch elbow just on the right hip. We have seen other snap releases using the pitch elbow in front of the right hip, but is it really a necessary condition for the "best" snap? Let's look at the 2011 Masters Champ

Starting at the :32 mark, look at the shaft angles and elbow positions by clicking through the frames. The right elbow stays to the right of the right hip, but just look at that delayed wrist action. Maybe compda had it just right from the beginning?

i realize the variations are just guidelines and there are x variations and variations of variations and so forth, but IF the elbow is not in front of the hip, it is not a pitch elbow... is that not the identity of the pitch elbow? seems to me looks something like between pitch and punch, personally i have noticed most players on tour who use snap releases deliver with a punch elbow, punch in fact seems to be the most common.

charl schwartzel, louis oosthuizen, gregory havret all have pretty perfect golf swings

[MizunoJoe]

would i be correct in guessing that lag pressure would be harder to meter out with maximum trigger delay and snap release? as we know a shorter club can go further into release than the longer clubs. so for a player who really cranks down the snap release naturally choking up might not necessarily take any distance off of a shot, forcing the player to meter out power some other way to play a less than full power shot, and to me it seems with that short of release time lag pressure would be hard to dial in anything other than full. i suppose it depends on the player's sensations and skill. there are advantages and disadvantages to every stroke pattern. I'm sticking to random sweep

A snap release is a delay in the onset of #2 unloading until the hands just reach the right thigh(or later), You can snap easy or hard or in between by adjusting pivot thrust after getting to the late release point.

[MizunoJoe]

i realize the variations are just guidelines and there are x variations and variations of variations and so forth, but IF the elbow is not in front of the hip, it is not a pitch elbow... is that not the identity of the pitch elbow? seems to me looks something like between pitch and punch, personally i have noticed most players on tour who use snap releases deliver with a punch elbow, punch in fact seems to be the most common.

charl schwartzel, louis oosthuizen, gregory havret all have pretty perfect golf swings

An elbow which is over a foot ahead of the hands(belly view) when it reaches the right hip is pitch regardless of release point! When Schwartzel's right elbow reaches his right hip, it is way ahead of his hands which are at least 12" from his right thigh, and the shaft is at least 60 degs above horizontal. In the next frame when release starts, his hands have just reached his right thigh and his funny bone is still ahead of his hands. He could have sought the naval and had more pitch, but it's still a snap release. At any rate, that's not a punch elbow.

[O.B.Left]

What a swing on that guy!

[KevCarter]

What a swing on that guy!

Beautifully simple and classic. Centered, left foot doesn't roll on backstroke, no extra moves. He would fit in with our favorite model swings IMO!

Kevin

[Mike O]

A snap release is a delay in the onset of #2 unloading until the hands just reach the right thigh(or later), You can snap easy or hard or in between by adjusting pivot thrust after getting to the late release point.

Pressure points don't unload until after impact in an ideal stroke. You may have just been made a quick post oversite however taken the wrong way by any particular reader - the results are disastrous. Delay in the onset of "release" is the proper termnot unloading which refers to pressure points.

Put another way, constant pressure of a pressure point to their assigned accumulator doesn't prevent the release of the assigned accumulator. Since a loss of pressure point pressure would release an accumulator, one might think that on the opposite end of the scale that constanct pressure would not release accumulators - which is not the case. Pressure of Pressure points do not impact or control the type of release in an ideal swing.

[comdpa]

would i be correct in guessing that lag pressure would be harder to meter out with maximum trigger delay and snap release? as we know a shorter club can go further into release than the longer clubs. so for a player who really cranks down the snap release naturally choking up might not necessarily take any distance off of a shot, forcing the player to meter out power some other way to play a less than full power shot, and to me it seems with that short of release time lag pressure would be hard to dial in anything other than full. i suppose it depends on the player's sensations and skill. there are advantages and disadvantages to every stroke pattern. I'm sticking to random sweep

Is that you Greg?