Maximum Compression

[Yoda]

Daryl,

Thank you for your many contributions to the site and the body of knowledge. I appreciate the time and effort you put into it.

John,

I hope you find a way to contribute here -- debate can be very healthy and drive all our understanding. I've viewed some of your videos and found them helpful in my own understanding. Hopefully, you'll want to gain some understanding here, too.

I'm workin' on each of these fine gentlemen. They may have been separated at birth -- environmental differences can be a wonderful thing! -- but both have a home here!

[brianmontgomery2000]

I'm workin' on each of these fine gentlemen. They may have been separated at birth -- environmental differences can be a wonderful thing! -- but both have a home here!

Another great thing about this place...all are welcome and ideas exchange freely (at least best I've seen on the Web).

[Daryl]

I'm workin' on each of these fine gentlemen. They may have been separated at birth -- environmental differences can be a wonderful thing! -- but both have a home here!

I know that John and I were separated at birth, and I also know that I got the Brains and he got the Good Looks.

[innercityteacher]

Actually, I feel like Pinto having found the right, slightly off kilter fraternity for myself with TGM and LBG. You know, the guys who really know what's going on and who really know how to have fun, but who aren't mainstream.

Every time I try to have a TGM discussion with the "real" golf types, I feel like the rush party in Animal House --

Neidermeyer: Hi there, fellows. Meet Ken and Lonny.
Larry: Larry.
Neidermeyer: Ken, Lonny, l'd like you to meet Mohammet Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton. Grab a seat and make yourselves at home. Don't be shy about helping yourselves to punch and cookies...

Since I had attended an all-male Catholic hs, run by the Brothers of Holy Cross, I felt that selecting the all-male dorm, becoming President of the dorm and finally a Resident Advisor in the dorm (with the obligatory weekend keg tap), was the best I could do.


It was all I could do to promote and sustain a perpetual "Animal House" atmosphere. I do my best to spread that spirit in every serious endeavor.

ICT

[kbclements]

I just watched Bobby Clampett's PGA Iowa Section video and he said that tracman showed him hitting up on his drive which he thought was dead wrong. He said that his CBS Swing Vision showed that his driver bottomed out 4 inches past impact.

Bobby said that Tracman's doppler operates at what equals 120 frames per second while Swing Vision operates at 1000.

It leads me to believe that maybe the tech of Tracman doesn't quite reach the level that reveals the whole truth.

Maybe Homer's science is right (or wrong) but we won't know until the technology improves.

Until then, Ill roll down that plane line the best that I can.

[KevCarter]

KB, right or wrong per "science" When you take it out of the room and away from the men in white coats... Homer Kelly's geometrically oriented linear force just flat out works, and is an extremely effective system for teaching. It works with flesh, blood, and the human mind. No doubt in my mind. I've seen what it has done for my students.

Feel as it relates to mechanics, machines and test tubes have none.

Bobby Clampett gets it.

Kevin

[Yoda]

I just watched Bobby Clampett's PGA Iowa Section video and he said that tracman showed him hitting up on his drive which he thought was dead wrong. He said that his CBS Swing Vision showed that his driver bottomed out 4 inches past impact.

Bobby said that TrackMan's doppler operates at what equals 120 frames per second while Swing Vision operates at 1000.

It leads me to believe that maybe the tech of TrackMan doesn't quite reach the level that reveals the whole truth.

Maybe Homer's science is right (or wrong) but we won't know until the technology improves.

Until then, Ill roll down that plane line the best that I can.

You're on the right "track", KB. Pun intended!

[BerntR]

I can't see where Homer could possible have gone wrong with his dissection of impact and ball compression in TGM.

HK's discussion of impact was very theoeoretical. I think we need empirical data to sort out how much small variations in the impact alignments matters to the energy transfer.

In any case I think HK's explanations here tells a lot about the difference in quality of ball striking between great players and high handicappers.

It may appear that the difference between a draw (with as close to perfect impact as it gets) and a fade (where the club face rotates anti clock wise and the ball rotates clock wise) is negligible for a good ball striker. But I really have to flush a fade to get the typical draw distance, so I am not convinced that a fade goes as long as a draw as long as you negotiate the difference in adding loft when hitting a fade.

[O.B.Left]

BerntR does the empirical data you allude to exist? That'd be very interesting.

Horizontal Hinging , Hogans little baseball bat, A.J Bonars closing clubface do seem very real to me, well given decades of field trials. Horizontal Hinging given Homers Alignments being the most precise the others though brilliant are somewhat open to interpretation, respectfully.

By the way does anybody have a copy of the Nick Seitz interview with Ben Hogan , Gold Digest 1980's? Id love to read exactly how he described the rolling face, the little bat.

[kbclements]

Hi OB - you can find the interview here:

http://advancedballstriking.com/foru...hp?f=25&t=1498

Keep warm till next season. 12C here in Pincher today but a bit breezie - gusting to 130.