How much Cen Force

[brownman]

The 2HBP is the feeling of maximum radius during release. The smaller the pully the more exaggerated the feel.

Bumpy

Sorry Bumpy,Im slow on the uptake here.....2HBP..?
I like the max release....cheers

[Bumpy]

2HBP = two handed basketball pass.

The smaller the pulley, the heavier the ball. I think Hogan used an 8#, if it gets to heavy I lose power. You got to be a giant if you want to make it work right. Pivot power transfer to zone 2?

I may be just rambling, thank god for Homer, Hogan too.

Bumpy

[MizunoJoe]

2HBP = two handed basketball pass.

I may be just rambling, thank god for Homer, Hogan too.

Bumpy

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

[Bumpy]

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

As far as the 2hbp goes, I can see the potential for disruption if using a big pulley.

AC

[brownman]

As a matter of interest only,Why do club grips have a taper,I mean most putters have flat grips,(sort off)but some early day grips were not tapered..........has this got anything to do with "gripping light",by this mean,..ie..if there was no taper ,one would have squeeze a bit more to hold grip properly imo...not earth moving,purely,interest.......cheers

[innercityteacher]

As a matter of interest only,Why do club grips have a taper,I mean most putters have flat grips,(sort off)but some early day grips were not tapered..........has this got anything to do with "gripping light",by this mean,..ie..if there was no taper ,one would have squeeze a bit more to hold grip properly imo...not earth moving,purely,interest.......cheers

B, Imagine a stiff wall stopping your head from moving. Throw against it throwing your hands past your head. I even look at my right shoulder so I can sling the hands using the body only slightly or dropping the right elbow to start the sling. I apologize if I am misleading here as my artificial hip is different than your front hip but those are my feelings. Watch Lynn and how subtle his movement is for the correct flail! Compare it with the problem with head movement! The club does the work!

http://youtu.be/EDNCLchMYRI

Good luck.

ICT!

[innercityteacher]

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

Thanks for the clarity MJ. Brilliant!


ICT

[MizunoJoe]

Thanks for the clarity MJ. Brilliant!


ICT

ICT, the brilliance belongs entirely to TGM.

[brownman]

Im struggling with release and in need of some wisdom....i have been getting mixed results and indeed mixed distances with my Swinging Pattern,as I getting in to release,I feel that my swing centre is far too early just using the rotating shoulders and gravity,and cent /force,I have been playing with manually getting my R/elbow more into the "pitch"position.
This seems to be getting my hands into a better position for releasing than just using Shoulder/rotation,my pivot feels ok but my swing feels "better" by moving my r/elbow and has the feeling that I pulling the shaft down into release in a straighter line from the top.
Am I doing something wrong by using this action or is it OK?

Thanks in advanceBM

[O.B.Left]

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

Here's the part of the book I believe you're alluding to. Ive taken the liberty of bolding the particular sentence of interest.

CHAPTER 2 STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLE

PAGE 34

THE FLAIL

If thrust is applied only to the Left Arm (Handle), the Clubshaft (Swingle) will perform more like a Rope Handle (rising Clubhead pull), but if prestressed by Clubhead Lag Pressure Point pressure, more like an Axe Handle (steady Clubhead Inertia). However, the Primary Lever Assembly is only somewhat flail like. That is, it is bolted together as with a hinge pin, rather than tied together with a thong, so that it can only be “Cocked” and/or “Rotated” per 4-B and 4-C and cannot pass the “Handle” (4-A-2) while moving toward full extension per 2-P. This insures the Imperative Flat Left Wrist (1-L, 2-0). Study 2-F, 6-F-0 and 10-19. As with the standard flail, the true and proper direction for its mass to move is “downward On Plane” regardless of the incidental appearance of moving “forward On Plane.” Always from the Top. This is indispensable for both Hitters and Swingers for inhibiting Clubhead Throwaway. Study 2-K and Chapter 2-P.