Return of the Snap Release?

[MizunoJoe]

Thank you for your constructive comments.

I wasn't working on the pitch elbow this week - more on the in-to-path as well as a bend in the left arm. Its not as rigid as the previous week if you notice. Ideally would like to keep my upper left arm close to parallel to ground. Yes, I agree the moves facilitates my push draw. I didn't like the "arms going left" look and feel as:

1. It facilitated pulls and made double-crossed shots a possibility.

2. It caused me to lose my spine angle, creating the occasional weak "wipe" shots.

Attached please see belly view.



Will do so this week especially following the wonderful video posted of Ben. This is what my "practice" pitch elbow swing looks like. Sorry, no front on available.

I can see the additional pitch move from the DTL view. Have you hit any balls with this move yet?

[O.B.Left]

With no ball in front of me I can delay my random sweep longer, something I need to do.

Homers dandelion revelation again. But Im not clear on how to pull that swing off when the ball is present. Ive tried ignoring the ball as much as I can, thinking the Three Stations ( Impact with the ball not ranking as one), thinking the "motion makes the shot". All good stuff but Im still controlling, intervening. Been doing it for years too.

Anybody have some insight on this thing? Moe talked about a "healthy indifference" . I'd consider anything, meditation, medication, surgery .....I hear they do a fine golfers labotomy in Buffalo.

Is it simply an incomplete Translation (of mechanics to feel) or a Computer programming problem , yellow book wise?

Hmm Aiming Point Procedure might help maybe? Was Homer's intention to clip the roots out beneath that dandelion?

[O.B.Left]

Comdpa

When I was playing yesterday (Kapalua from the tips, ah thank you very much. How come theres no Elvis smilie faces? Frig. And please send Pro Vs) I realized that I sometimes with a driver swing my arms out to the right. Namely, when I point my plane line that way for balls played forward of low point.... The ball when positioned up there having a corresponding , Forward , IN and Up Clubhead path and requiring a Plane Line Rotation to the right to counter the fade tendency (and a clubface rotation for my slice faced driver).

If this relates to what you are describing then your camera position is slightly off angle, still set up for a straight plane line, which will warp the appearance of the clubshafts "exit" location.

I dunno maybe this isnt what you are talking about. You're for sure on a higher plane and have your grip end pointing at a plane line better Id say.

[MizunoJoe]

With no ball in front of me I can delay my random sweep longer, something I need to do.

Anybody have some insight on this thing?

Assuming you have your mind in your hands, rather than aiming your hands at impact location, pitch your right elbow to your desired release position. For a random sweep, that position will be before the elbow catches the left hip, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that. Most release when the elbow catches the hip. An elite few pass the left hip and seek the naval. Managing the elbow helps by taking the focus off the ball, which helps eliminate the hit syndrome.

[comdpa]

I can see the additional pitch move from the DTL view. Have you hit any balls with this move yet?

I have not at the moment. Am still re-wiring the computer, but I suppose I will go "operational" soon.

[comdpa]

Comdpa

When I was playing yesterday (Kapalua from the tips, ah thank you very much. How come theres no Elvis smilie faces? Frig. And please send Pro Vs) I realized that I sometimes with a driver swing my arms out to the right. Namely, when I point my plane line that way for balls played forward of low point.... The ball when positioned up there having a corresponding , Forward , IN and Up Clubhead path and requiring a Plane Line Rotation to the right to counter the fade tendency (and a clubface rotation for my slice faced driver).

If this relates to what you are describing then your camera position is slightly off angle, still set up for a straight plane line, which will warp the appearance of the clubshafts "exit" location.

I dunno maybe this isnt what you are talking about. You're for sure on a higher plane and have your grip end pointing at a plane line better Id say.

My issue has nothing to do with camera angle and everything to do with eliminating the hands swinging left post impact! Man, do I hate that...

[O.B.Left]

Assuming you have your mind in your hands, rather than aiming your hands at impact location, pitch your right elbow to your desired release position. For a random sweep, that position will be before the elbow catches the left hip, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that. Most release when the elbow catches the hip. An elite few pass the left hip and seek the naval. Managing the elbow helps by taking the focus off the ball, which helps eliminate the hit syndrome.

Thanks MJ

Hey man do you know when mizuno is coming out with some new irons? My mp 32's are getting tired.

FYI assuming I follow you, I was talking Homers aiming point as opposed to Mr Doyles version which is more Impact Hands location than the direction of thrust of the #3pp at a point on the ARc of Approach fore or aft of the ball.

When you say "pitch your right elbow to your desired release position" are you talking about a pitching motion or the Pitch elbow position?

That makes sense to me....a blocked hip initiating release whenever the right elbow hits it. Cool. A while back I was goofing with some ass back and a hip slide with a delayed turn to clear a big hole for the bent right elbow but never took any film. Hmm I was hitting it really good then....

OB

[comdpa]

Assuming you have your mind in your hands, rather than aiming your hands at impact location, pitch your right elbow to your desired release position. For a random sweep, that position will be before the elbow catches the left hip, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that. Most release when the elbow catches the hip. An elite few pass the left hip and seek the naval. Managing the elbow helps by taking the focus off the ball, which helps eliminate the hit syndrome.

For me to make changes, I would first have to ingrain the feel of the look. Thereafter it's about repeating the feel while hitting while not being afraid of mistakes UNTIL the computer figures out the changes / compensations to make for the new move.

[12 piece bucket]

Assuming you have your mind in your hands, rather than aiming your hands at impact location, pitch your right elbow to your desired release position. For a random sweep, that position will be before the elbow catches the left hip, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that. Most release when the elbow catches the hip. An elite few pass the left hip and seek the naval. Managing the elbow helps by taking the focus off the ball, which helps eliminate the hit syndrome.

Which elbow passes the left hip? Left or right? Where would the left elbow and butt cap be pointing?

Are there any pictures of this we can see?

[MizunoJoe]

I have not at the moment. Am still re-wiring the computer, but I suppose I will go "operational" soon.

Be aware that after getting some ball flight feedback, you may have to make some adjustments. If you listen carefully to Ben's video tips, you will hear him continually admonish the student to make a "3 dimensional" backswing. This means "deeper" - it's maybe a little bit counter-intuitive, but it actually makes the max pitch elbow much easier because you can do it with less of an independent elbow "flapping" movement, and more with the slide/ tilt(pivot).