Learning and Applying TGM w/disabilities by a 21 hcp.

[innercityteacher]

Great job, Patrick. You now are empowered and on your way!

Originally posted by brianmontgomery2000
Senior Member

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 123
I have been amazed at how far I can hit the ball with what feels like a painfully slow right arm thrust (and conversely how screwed up a shot can get when I thrust "fast" -- which probably means "early").

A lot of times my swing thought is "slow, heavy, deliberate"...

I think it works because of mechanical advantage of the club still whipping through from left wrist uncocking and release of the lag. I'm still studying.

Also, remember, it's even hard for a trained eye to truly tell if someone is hitting or swinging, so the "speed" of the thrust may be more one of feeling.

#12
01-20-2011, 06:13 AM
Par71
Junior Member

Originally Posted by innercityteacher
If you do this well, you will have more friends and be popular. Some people in PA, GA, MN, IL, and New England will welcome you around their campfire on a cold, dark night. You will here a rifle shot sort of impact sound. You will achieve "coolness" and you will feel better about God and the life he has given you. You will make friendly wagers and win several giving a portion of the winnings to your family, the poor, and a higher yielding CD!
Sounds like it's worth the effort.

I find your explanations extremely helpful, ICT. As for the weight left issue I might have misunderstood your first post. Of course the weight will be favoring the left side at impact fix (at least if both the body and the hands are in impact fix). I understood you were suggesting it should stay on the left side through the entire backstroke.

#13
01-20-2011, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Par 71

I find your explanations extremely helpful, ICT. As for the weight left issue I might have misunderstood your first post. Of course the weight will be favoring the left side at impact fix (at least if both the body and the hands are in impact fix). I understood you were suggesting it should stay on the left side through the entire backstroke.

Originally Posted by ICT
Yes, that's my meaning. Of course the RFT will move the entire Power Package since it bio-mechanically has to. It will cause a slight shift but by staying left, your back hip is out of the way, as Daryl explained it to me, and your back shoulder moves more easily down plane. (My hips are messed up due to old foot ball injuries so some of my understanding is abstract.)

Par 71, there are other sites with some pretty cool graphics like Iseekgolf.com and Golfmachinist.au. I have looked at lots of sites and gotten different perspectives on all things TGM, but LBG seems to be the most faithful in explaining the correct bio-mechanical relationships necessary to have a very effective golf kit. I'm glad I can help you but I am really on the practice squad, not quite the JV (junior varsity for our foreign friends) team.

I would use our search engine and look at everything you are interested in through Lynn's perspective. Good Luck! Let us know what happens!


ICT
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Yesterday, 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by JerryG
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lake Elmo, MN
Posts: 414
City,
Earlier, you stated we were gatekeepers. We are the gatekeepers whose mantra is "Welcome." We stand at the gate to not only greet, but to also invite.
I recently told the story of the guy standing next to me at the dome who asked what I was working on. I very lightly mentioned things like "steady head", "bent right wrist," "flat left wrist" and the like. I asked what he was working on. He stated "supinatin' and pronatin." When I asked what he meant, he said he wasn't sure. Nice lessons, eh?
None of that baloney here, though. I invited him with a reference to this web site. I made it available. I did not drag him kicking and screaming, though I should have. I did suggest a lesson with someone who is a Friend of Homer's. He didn't pick up on it. I am afraid he is destined to wander in the desert for awhile. There is that readiness factor, you know.
Point being, if I may try to make one, this is the place to kick it around and get Positive feedback and Constructive information. Short of being on a nice golf course, this is my nirvana.
Speaking of nirvana, it was -22 deg.F here this morning when I wandered off the estate to my place of servitude. Should be nicer out tomorrow getting up into the single digit +'s.
Peace, brother.
g

#15
Today, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by innercityteacher
Senior Member

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 891
Wandering out in public, again!
Originally Posted by JerryG
City,
Earlier, you stated we were gatekeepers. We are the gatekeepers whose mantra is "Welcome." We stand at the gate to not only greet, but to also invite.
I recently told the story of the guy standing next to me at the dome who asked what I was working on. I very lightly mentioned things like "steady head", "bent right wrist," "flat left wrist" and the like. I asked what he was working on. He stated "supinatin' and pronatin." When I asked what he meant, he said he wasn't sure. Nice lessons, eh?
None of that baloney here, though. I invited him with a reference to this web site. I made it available. I did not drag him kicking and screaming, though I should have. I did suggest a lesson with someone who is a Friend of Homer's. He didn't pick up on it. I am afraid he is destined to wander in the desert for awhile. There is that readiness factor, you know.
Point being, if I may try to make one, this is the place to kick it around and get Positive feedback and Constructive information. Short of being on a nice golf course, this is my nirvana.
Speaking of nirvana, it was -22 deg.F here this morning when I wandered off the estate to my place of servitude. Should be nicer out tomorrow getting up into the single digit +'s.
Peace, brother.
g

The last two weeks at my indoor golf league, with my 10.9 hcp. I shot an 84 and 79. Tonight with the help of my friends ...............

JerryG ......firm right wrist, good crab dip and going back to my bullseye putter
KevCarter .....Cool clubs, how to turn my left hip left, and the fried Chicken basket
Daryl.......Pivot, firm left wrist. lots of cool pictures
OB Left....Delayed Hip Turn and right shoulder throw, Shaniah Twain
Yoda......Stationary head, RFT, EA, Vertically Un-cocking Left Wrist, Finishing Swivel and how to write posts....

my Aunts Romana and Belle...... used to discuss great literature and classic movies with me and were great cooks...


I shot a 73 on a par 70 (a 63 with my hcp.) with 4 birdies, avg. 176 yards per drive. I hit a lot of Wedges within 8 feet. I know it's only a simulator but it was 12 degrees outside!


ICT

Last evening, I opened with a double, and I then remembered the Stationary Head and Impact Fix, RFT, and I tried the VJ Trolio move with those alignments and they did not work for me. I had to center my head with "quiet feet and knees" to get the VJ stuff to work AND IT DID (2nd hole). Thanks, LYnn, VJ, Daryl, Jeff! I WAS 2 OVER ON THE FRONT 9. (2 birdies)

And then I got tired. I just wasn't used to spinning my Pivot in such a controlled manner for so long! What to do? Right Shouder Throw, my version of it anyway based on OB's

Stationary Head at Impact Fix, RFT, Light EA=2/5, Ball adjusted for a push/draw thanks Lynn, VJ, TEd, Kev and JerryG and 2 more birdies. One of the birdies was on a par 5, the hard way. 182 yard drive followed by 192 yard hybrid (yes, I will now use it off the tee) and a PW to 8 feet. 1 OVER ON THE BACK AS I THREW 2 BIRDIES AWAY. I WAS TIRED. IT WAS MIDNIGHT, AND I RECOGNIZED HER PERFUME. OH YEAH, IT WAS CALLED "TAKE ME TO THE CLUBHOUSE, YOU FOOL, TAKE ME NOW, YOU BEAST!" ( Actually, I forgot to check the stance I was putting on.)

I used my bullseye TPC edition Titleist "Deep Face" putter. Thanks JerryG, again. I'm thinking of carrying 4 hybrids. Do they make a # 1 hybrid?

ICT

[KevCarter]

Patrick,

You need to give yourself the LION's share of the credit. Your improvement is due to not only studying the good stuff, but a TON of hard work on your part. We are all very happy for you!

[innercityteacher]

Patrick,

You need to give yourself the LION's share of the credit. Your improvement is due to not only studying the good stuff, but a TON of hard work on your part. We are all very happy for you!

Thanks Kevin. Why are hybrids so much easier to hit? Do they make a "driving hybrid?" It seems to be the perfect length, perfect spot between my belt buckle and left heel, and the right trajectory. I use a Taylor Made # 2 and # 3 depending which I got out of the used bin at Golf Smith for uhmm $15 each.


ICT

[KevCarter]

Thanks Kevin. Why are hybrids so much easier to hit? Do they make a "driving hybrid?" It seems to be the perfect length, perfect spot between my belt buckle and left heel, and the right trajectory. I use a Taylor Made # 2 and # 3 depending which I got out of the used bin at Golf Smith for uhmm $15 each.


ICT

More weight further back in the club makes them easier to launch. They make very strong lofted hybrids, but they are harder to launch than FW's for me. I have found 18° to be about the strongest hybrid I can handle... at that yardage I am better off with an 18° FW metal. Everybody is different though... last year Titleist made a 15° hybrid. I have a friend who LOVES it, but too strong for me...

Kevin

[innercityteacher]

More weight further back in the club makes them easier to launch. They make very strong lofted hybrids, but they are harder to launch than FW's for me. I have found 18° to be about the strongest hybrid I can handle... at that yardage I am better off with an 18° FW metal. Everybody is different though... last year Titleist made a 15° hybrid. I have a friend who LOVES it, but too strong for me...

Kevin

My # 2 hybrid is 19 degrees. I have lost the ability to hit the FW or the driver it seems for now. Lynn will help me figure it out, I'm sure. I think I have too steep of an angle owing to the front leg shortage. But an Angle Hinge should work. 15 degrees? Hmmmm. Back to the bin!

I remembered to really keep my left wrist firm, last night, too as Daryl, Jerry and you have reminded me.

ICT





ICT

[KevCarter]

My # 2 hybrid is 19 degrees. 15 degrees? Hmmmm. Back to the bin!


ICT

Never know, maybe it would be just the ticket. We all need to try EVERYTHING!!! Keep us posted...

Kevin

[KevCarter]

Never know, maybe it would be just the ticket. We all need to try EVERYTHING!!! Keep us posted...

Kevin

Hey, I never really payed attention to this icon before. The ultimate in AIMING POINT!!!




Kevin

[KevCarter]

All my TGM buddies read this thread... I want to be sure you all have seen John Riegger's post.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...1624#post81624

thx everyone for the support. the wife and i did a 5 mile jog today, wow i think im crazy with all this exercise stuff. i haven't played any golf in months.been doing my normal stuff at home. dowels, tracing with laser, working on 3-f-5, start down waggle, and i could go on and on.the weather is going to be nice tomorrow so i may venture outside to hit a few. i'll keep you updated

jr

One of the top players in the world, going right back to the book and working on the very same fundamentals YODA is teaching us. We ALL make it too complicated... You won't be surprised to know Mr. Riegger's quote was added to my Swing Thoughts document along with 3-F-5.

Kevin

[innercityteacher]

All my TGM buddies read this thread... I want to be sure you all have seen John Riegger's post.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...1624#post81624



One of the top players in the world, going right back to the book and working on the very same fundamentals YODA is teaching us. We ALL make it too complicated... You won't be surprised to know Mr. Riegger's quote was added to my Swing Thoughts document along with 3-F-5.

Kevin

In my last most successful golf adventure, I Hit using the motion below with an Angle Hinge.

I did it from Impact Fix. Is the above move from Mr. Williams a Swing or Hit?

Thanks in advance.

ICT

[KevCarter]

Boy, I can't ever tell for sure Patrick. My opinion... I see a lot of swinging and centrifugal force. I think that right shoulder is going through like a flywheel, and I see him working at pitch elbow... pitch elbow can be used in hitting but is much more common in swinging. YODA was very impressed with how far this gentleman could hit it!

Kevin