Timing-Kinetics

[HungryBear]

This may at first look like a simple question but timing is explained in much too simplified and NON precise manner and I seek measurable precision.

Distinguishing feature between amateur and pro is “smooth”, effortless, and power. In very technical terms- Great kinematic sequence. We all work endlessly (assumption) on alignments always Looking, Looking, Looking. BUT, “Precision sequencing” seems to be an element reserved to those with the highest skill level. I search under every bucket for the lantern that will but the ability to look, look, look at the kinetic skills of G. O. L. F. as precisely as the geometry is put in Homers TGM but I , sadly, am always left with my own experimentation and “feel” and we know what a LIAR feel alone can be.
SO.

How do I/we – the amateur- learn and PERFECT the FOURTH dimension- Timing?

[GPStyles]

not sure if this is what you are looking for but check out ZENOlink.

[HungryBear]

I would like to start at this Figure. It gives me something to frame questions around.

http://www.philcheetham.com/Portals/...BA-image_2.png

To me this shows so much and creats so much thought.

I am surprised by what it shows.
but
It may help me discover why I, as many TGMers get well into the alignments and discover it is difficult to get into full swing.

I would like to hear more but I am convinced that the pivot is key to ALL strokes and ZONE #1 should be higher on my incubation list.

Caution- I want to and/or will get technical

The Bear

[Daryl]

I would like to start at this Figure. It gives me something to frame questions around.

http://www.philcheetham.com/Portals/...BA-image_2.png

To me this shows so much and creats so much thought.

I am surprised by what it shows.
but
It may help me discover why I, as many TGMers get well into the alignments and discover it is difficult to get into full swing.

I would like to hear more but I am convinced that the pivot is key to ALL strokes and ZONE #1 should be higher on my incubation list.

Caution- I want to and/or will get technical

The Bear

I agree that without Zone 1 precision you can kiss zone 2&3 goodbye.

Fortunately, this illustrates the wrong way to Pivot, so you can avoid it before you waste time finding compensations to fix it. This illustration demonstrates a figure using the "Head" as the Center of the Pivot during Address and Backstroke, and then replacing the "Head" with the "Left Shoulder becoming the center of the Pivot" during the Downstroke and Impact. If you move your Head during the Backstroke, that's exactly what you risk during the Downstroke.



TGMers don't have a difficult time with the full swing. But TGM students will until they learn to "Keep the Head Stationary".

Watch the following video. Ted Fort (AKA Yodasluke, "The Bommer", "The Boomer", "The Hitman") is featured Hitting with a full Stroke while a water bottle is perched on top his head. His swing looks funny only because he's a Hitter. It's not entirely his fault.
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...nary-Head.html

PIVOT CENTER Example – thetherball pole.
Mechanical – The point on which an assembly is suspended or erected to stabilize and limit that assembly’s possible travel – the Hinge Pin.
Golf – Some point on the body kept stationary throughout the Stroke, to stabilize the motion.

PIVOT Example – revolving door.
Mechanical – That motion of a body moving around a center point.
Golf – A multiple universal-joint assembly between the Stationary Head and the Stationary Feet holding the Clubshaft “On Plane” by positioning and adjusting the Lever Assembly, through the #3 Accumulator, as directed by the Right Forearm.

BALANCE Example – a hula dancer.
Mechanical – State in which all opposing forces cancel each other out.
Golf – Holding the center of gravity of the body inside The Stance without moving the Head.

1L #2 The Post may turn (Pivot) but does not “sway” or “bob.”

[HungryBear]

I agree that without Zone 1 precision you can kiss zone 2&3 goodbye.

Fortunately, this illustrates the wrong way to Pivot,

I would like the thread to stay with timing, kinetics. If thats OK with U?

As I believe. The figure is a composit of data from current tour pros.

Maybe you have researched and can expand,TGM compatable Def. for:

Rhythm- TGM uses only in RE: RPM the lever assembly(s)

pace- (the overall motion speed)

Timing, etc.- are not covered well


data would be helpful for emperical analysis.

The Bear

[johngolf33]

You might want to look at the pics of Diane in TGM where she is demonstrating the Zone 1 moves without using the arms or club.

[Daryl]

I would like the thread to stay with timing, kinetics. If thats OK with U?

As I believe. The figure is a composit of data from current tour pros.

The Bear

Well, that's the problem: "Composite Data". Where does the data show the "Composite Compensations"?

I am talking about "Timing". What is your definition of Timing? Mine's in the Book, 6-F-0.

3-F-7-D SWAYING is basically incorrect weight shifting due usually to faulty Pivot. Swaying can be in either or both directions – with the swing or in reverse. It produces abnormal trajectories, erratic timing and a teetering Balance. It is usually an attempt to replace the Pivot in working toward a Turn and a Weight Shift (7-12, 7-14).

[HungryBear]

What do you do when someone plays up your back ?

The first time I throw or hit their ball into the woods.

If it happens again I hit their ball back at them.

Never has happened a third time, yet.

The Bear

[JerryG]

What do you do when someone plays up your back ?

The first time I throw or hit their ball into the woods.

If it happens again I hit their ball back at them.

Never has happened a third time, yet.

The Bear

The first time I just smile and wave figuring they may have made a mistake.
The second time I would wave again and explain we are waiting for the group in front of us.
If, like the group I will be playing with tomorrow, we are slow, I will ask them to play through and wish them a speedy round. I cannot enjoy the game or the company with people like that behind me.
I see enough jerks on the road. I don't want them anywhere near me on a golf course.

[Daryl]

The first time I just smile and wave figuring they may have made a mistake.
The second time I would wave again and explain we are waiting for the group in front of us.
If, like the group I will be playing with tomorrow, we are slow, I will ask them to play through and wish them a speedy round. I cannot enjoy the game or the company with people like that behind me.
I see enough jerks on the road. I don't want them anywhere near me on a golf course.

Ditto....