Does extensor action cause hinging?

[forhim004]

Ive been trying to piece togeather a few things in my backswing. One of the main "feels" that changes day to day is, some days the extensor action seems to cause me to hinge other days i feel as is they are two seperate moves. I believe if the right arm folds properly the two should happen togeather.
Any thoughts?

[EdZ]

Ive been trying to piece togeather a few things in my backswing. One of the main "feels" that changes day to day is, some days the extensor action seems to cause me to hinge other days i feel as is they are two seperate moves. I believe if the right arm folds properly the two should happen togeather.
Any thoughts?

I wouldn't say hinge action is caused by extensor action per se, no. That said, the more structured the power package (triangle), the more the hinge action can be a result, not an 'action'.

The more the elbows stay the same distance apart during the motion, the more you will feel the release/hinge action as a 'unit', the entire power package. Having extensor action adds structure to the power package, so these are clearly related.

Hogan's 'strap' training aid is directly related to this power package structure. Keeping the elbows the same distance apart and pointed down.

[Daryl]

Ive been trying to piece togeather a few things in my backswing. One of the main "feels" that changes day to day is, some days the extensor action seems to cause me to hinge other days i feel as is they are two seperate moves. I believe if the right arm folds properly the two should happen togeather.
Any thoughts?

To me, Hinging is a Flat Left Wrist with a Primary Lever. Hinge Action is the Motion of the Flat Left Wrist through the Impact Interval.

[O.B.Left]

Ive been trying to piece togeather a few things in my backswing. One of the main "feels" that changes day to day is, some days the extensor action seems to cause me to hinge other days i feel as is they are two seperate moves. I believe if the right arm folds properly the two should happen togeather.
Any thoughts?

When you say "hinge" you are referring to left wrist cock? If so please note that Eds and Daryls responses are in regard to "Hinge Action" as defined in TGM. Clubface control via a holding of the left wrist perpendicular to one of the three Basic Planes.

[EdZ]

Also note that my above comments relate mainly to swingers, a hitter's support of the loading action is different.

[forhim004]

When i spoke of "hinging" i was talking about the setting of the left wrist in the backswing. How would this change for a hitter? Would starting out in a forward press not simplify the process of completeing a successful backswing. I read in a different post last night that hitters are not advised to start in a nuetral hand position at setup. This did seem to help to consistancy of strike.

[Burner]

When i spoke of "hinging" i was talking about the setting of the left wrist in the backswing. How would this change for a hitter? Would starting out in a forward press not simplify the process of completeing a successful backswing. I read in a different post last night that hitters are not advised to start in a nuetral hand position at setup. This did seem to help to consistancy of strike.

Hitters can start their back swing from an "Impact Fix" position, where the required orientation of the wrists can be seen, set and held from that point right through impact.

Swingers use the "Impact Fix" procedure to ascertain the amount of right wrist bend needed for the shot in question before moving to adjusted address prior to commencement of their back swing.

The swingers visualised and memorised wrist orientations are then implemented, at the players chosen point in his back swing, and held through impact.

[O.B.Left]

When i spoke of "hinging" i was talking about the setting of the left wrist in the backswing. How would this change for a hitter? Would starting out in a forward press not simplify the process of completeing a successful backswing. I read in a different post last night that hitters are not advised to start in a nuetral hand position at setup. This did seem to help to consistancy of strike.

If you stick around here for a while, left hand wrist cock will cease to be something you do actively. It will become something that just happens. In regard to Hitters, they dont cock their left wrist to any great benefit but they do cock their right elbow.

[EdZ]

When i spoke of "hinging" i was talking about the setting of the left wrist in the backswing. How would this change for a hitter? Would starting out in a forward press not simplify the process of completeing a successful backswing. I read in a different post last night that hitters are not advised to start in a nuetral hand position at setup. This did seem to help to consistancy of strike.

Hinging, hinge action, has a different meaning in TGM than what you describe (left wrist cock).

In TGM, hinge action describes how the left wrist relates to the plane from impact to separation (when the ball leaves the face after being compressed against it).

In a nutshell, the left wrist stays vertical (perpendicular) to one of three planes - horizontal (a swinging door), angled (a pitched roof), or vertical (a wall).

If you are a hitter, the most compatible hinge action is angled - the left wrist stays vertical to the plane (pitched roof) - and this will result in a fade unless otherwise compensated.

Starting from impact fix allows the hitter to set the impact alignments and 'carry them back' as a unit, to the top. A fairly simple action straight up and down the plane with a 'no roll' feel in the hands until after both arms straight when the left wrist swivels back up plane.