From the mouth of Peter Thomson 5 time British Open winner to my ears..Hogan's hands slid around on the grip.
Did he actively drop his right thumb off..Ludicrous
Great story Pistol, please tell us more about your talk with Peter Thomson. Love his swing.
Ive been looking at more photos and Ill be danged but his right thumb would appear to be on the move. Its easy to spot if you know where to look....... Hey that reminds me of something.............not sure what .....
Anyhow, take a look at these LIFE photos. Im seeing the right thumb move to the front of the grip when the left wrist cocks.
But at impact during what appears to be the same swing, the thumb looks to be back in place.
This would maybe suggest that the right thumb movement is a product of the left wrist cock and uncock. This would be possible if the grip pressure at the thumb and forefinger allowed. Which would be consistent with Mr Hogans assertions in the Coleman Estate video:
"......very little pressure on the index finger of the right hand and thumb. You get the pressure of your right hand with this butt pad of your index finger. Going throug. It isnt any pressure down or around the shaft, its just forward" He then demonstrates the pp#3 with the right thumb off the shaft going through impact.
There are photos I can find where after impact the thumb seems to have dropped off. Both of these photos would appear to be on shots where Mr Hogan is "holding it off", swinging left or whatever. Not sure what the thumb looked like at impact but Im thinking it was off the club and intentional. A different release type enhanced with a grip change that promoted a steady, constant nursing of lag pressure at #3?
Interesting. What do you guys think?
I bet Yoda has some insights on all of this. He has a pretty nice right thumb in this photo too although he was employing a 10-2-D grip here. 10-2-D excellent for cut shots, the right palm paddle wheeling on plane, towards impact with no Separate Rolling Motion until after impact etc .
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Edit : How do you drop photos into the text properly??
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
[quote=O.B.Left;61219]Great story Pistol, please tell us more about your talk with Peter Thomson. Love his swing.
O.B
Funny story . it was at the Aust Open 1989 from memory at Royal Sydney in a practice round following the shark. Anyhow the shark was getting some tips in a bunker from an old man and I was in close checking it out. Turned to a few suits next to me and asked why the shark was taking a lesson from an bloke who looked like a drunk off the street. They burst out laughing and one of them said " young man that is Norman Von Nida"..yep foot in mouth.
Well it was Peter Thomson of all people and asked him a few Q's . What was Hogan like , how good etc. Thomson was a perfectionist himself and he said the odd thing was Hogan started with a semi short thumb but as he loaded to the top the thumb would slip/catch and become long left thumb and was evident the harder Hogan went at it.
Norman Von nida played a lot with Hogan as well and is on record as stating Hogan loved playing rounds with the Von cause he faded the ball.
The Von stated Hogan thought he faded the ball but no chance said the Von ..it was always a tiny draw and when he did it was a weak fade.
History tells us that Hogan eventually mastered his swing but the baloney written about Hogan being perfect is bordering on mythical
Great story Pistol, please tell us more about your talk with Peter Thomson. Love his swing.
O.B
Funny story . it was at the Aust Open 1989 from memory at Royal Sydney in a practice round following the shark. Anyhow the shark was getting some tips in a bunker from an old man and I was in close checking it out. Turned to a few suits next to me and asked why the shark was taking a lesson from an bloke who looked like a drunk off the street. They burst out laughing and one of them said " young man that is Norman Von Nida"..yep foot in mouth.
Well it was Peter Thomson of all people and asked him a few Q's . What was Hogan like , how good etc. Thomson was a perfectionist himself and he said the odd thing was Hogan started with a semi short thumb but as he loaded to the top the thumb would slip/catch and become long left thumb and was evident the harder Hogan went at it.
Norman Von nida played a lot with Hogan as well and is on record as stating Hogan loved playing rounds with the Von cause he faded the ball.
The Von stated Hogan thought he faded the ball but no chance said the Von ..it was always a tiny draw and when he did it was a weak fade.
History tells us that Hogan eventually mastered his swing but the baloney written about Hogan being perfect is bordering on mythical
Thanks Pistol
This place is all the richer with generous stories like that one.
Here is a photo of Peter Thomson at impact showing a very nice trigger finger.
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