Goosen Rt side swinger or hitter w/ silky tempo?

birdie chance · #21 01-12-2008, 11:06 AM

TT at setup: significant amount of axis tilt
I think Hogan didn't have this much (according to V.J. Trolio his COG was centered between his feet)
Was TT's visible setup tilt a result of his Height and body type? How tall was TT by the way?
thoughts?

Delaware Golf · #22 01-12-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by woodandcoal

TT at setup: significant amount of axis tilt
I think Hogan didn't have this much (according to V.J. Trolio his COG was centered between his feet)
Was TT's visible setup tilt a result of his Height and body type? How tall was TT by the way?
thoughts?

According to my instruction with Tommy and the video instruction of Tommy on this site, Tommy's tilt at setup is due to the right hand being lower than the left on the club handle. Lynn and Ted might disagree with this setup. Lynn/Ted??? any comments?

DG

**YodasLuke** · #23 01-12-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf

According to my instruction with Tommy and the video instruction of Tommy on this site, Tommy's tilt at setup is due to the right hand being lower than the left on the club handle. Lynn and Ted might disagree with this setup. Lynn/Ted??? any comments?

DG

I would say that the Right-hand being lower on the club and any bend in the Right Arm would cause the Right Shoulder to be lower, but it doesn't have to cause axis tilt. I was taught for years to have the excess axis tilt at Address, but with an uncentered Head. With that amount of axis tilt, I couldn't play dead in a western movie because I couldn't manage Low Point.

In my present Hitting pattern, I have axis tilt at Address because of my Impact Address. My Head is centered, but my Hips are forward. Thus, the axis tilt is derived from the lower part of the axis being forward and the Head being centered, instead of the top of the axis being tilted back and the Hips being centered.

okie · #24 01-12-2008, 03:14 PM

"Thus, the axis tilt is derived from the lower part of the axis being forward and the Head being centered, instead of the top of the axis being tilted back and the Hips being centered."

That is a great distinction, Mr. Fort! Thank you for putting it that way. Setting up to a driver my chin used to be over the inside of my right foot. I had a pro physically move it there (apparently I was not getting my weight to my right side!) Curtis Strange had just won his second U.S. Open! Of course, the problem then became that my right arm was a foot too short!

I seldom run out of right arm these days

birdie chance · #25 01-12-2008, 08:01 PM

To me TT's tilt at setup does not seem to be due only to the natural tilt that might occur from the grip (right hand naturally lower than left).
He adds alot.
In TT Ch. 1 "Pivot" video you can see this starting at 3:40 but more cleary at around 7:04 he says after getting what he calls the "three point set" completed to "tilt just a bit": and you can see this clearly as a choice he is making to hula just a bit toward the target (as Mr. Fort has said he does) so it's clearly moving toward or is at an impact address for him before he starts his backswing.

neil · #26 01-12-2008, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by ColtsFan

http://www.golftipscc.com/profiles/p..._03/index.html

This may shed some light....

It may just be me, but this doesn't tell ME much.
It may be the bad camera angle,but the notes I would question-Goosen is noticeably steeper on his down stroke?
I never saw it when he was based in England.