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07-18-2007, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Answer the questions Cowgirl. Hammer to the top loaded and ready to strike a nail (or in your case fanger) . . . describe the conditions of your wrist based on Chapter 4 (cocked, uncocked, level, bent, arched, flat, turned, rolled, vertical) . . . . The questions!!!! Focus!!!
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You've been taking posting lessons from MikeO haven't you.
From a left wrist alignment standpoint you can't compare a hammer with a big hickory grip, held in the palm of your left hand, with a golf club. But it is good for feeling PP#2. Trick question; Where is PP#3 with a hammer?
Like I said, I don't have a problem with a bent left wrist at the top/end of the swing. For some its necessary.
Oh yeah, I forgot you replaced your Miuras with farming tools.
And besides, the construction worker models in the pictures you posted couldn't put nail through sheetrock.
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07-18-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
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You've been taking posting lessons from MikeO haven't you.
From a left wrist alignment standpoint you can't compare a hammer with a big hickory grip, held in the palm of your left hand, with a golf club. But it is good for feeling PP#2. Trick question; Where is PP#3 with a hammer?
Like I said, I don't have a problem with a bent left wrist at the top/end of the swing. For some its necessary.
Oh yeah, I forgot you replaced your Miuras with farming tools.
And besides, the construction worker models in the pictures you posted couldn't put nail through sheetrock.
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You still no answer me questionez . . . why can't I compare a hammer and a golf club??? Go home and hold your hammer . . . You don't have a problem with a bent and cocked left wrist because that's how your body works and gets you the shortest radius to accelerate a hammer or golf club or whatever. I believe it is NATURAL. Look at Freddie . . . the club is right in line with his left arm perfectly . . . check out the follow throw pic . . . right in line . . BUT left wrist is bent and re-cocked.
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07-18-2007, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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I believe it is NATURAL.
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Can be.
Depends on your grip type.
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07-18-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
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Can be.
Depends on your grip type.
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Why don't you grip a hammer where you have your left wrist flat then bootscoot?
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07-18-2007, 04:49 PM
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Well, Bucks
Mr. Bucket,
Are you trying to say that a moderately cupped left wrist is OK?
I think in Hogan and Freddie's case it is an anti - hook action.
Also, please check some of Lee Buck's pix for an argument against.
What is yer point? (please)
UPP in suddenly sunny Ohio
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07-18-2007, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Why don't you grip a hammer where you have your left wrist flat then bootscoot?
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Because I like a PP #3 when I hammer skidmark.
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07-18-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Uppndownn
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Mr. Bucket,
Are you trying to say that a moderately cupped left wrist is OK?
I think in Hogan and Freddie's case it is an anti - hook action.
Also, please check some of Lee Buck's pix for an argument against.
What is yer point? (please)
UPP in suddenly sunny Ohio
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I'm saying that if you make a motion any motion outside of golf that requires that you cock your left wrist . . . you cock AND bend it inorder to achieve the full range of motion. Pick up a hammer without thinking about how you hold it left handed and hammer something. How do you instinctively hold it? How does the weight of the hammer cause your wrist to move? Try hammering something with your left wrist flat and holla back at me.
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07-18-2007, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Uppndownn
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Mr. Bucket,
Are you trying to say that a moderately cupped left wrist is OK?
I think in Hogan and Freddie's case it is an anti - hook action.
Also, please check some of Lee Buck's pix for an argument against.
What is yer point? (please)
UPP in suddenly sunny Ohio
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I think that Bucket is saying that the "flat" that we see from the skin side of the wrist does not necessarily mean that the bony articulation within the wrist joint is in its neutral position.
If you have a lagging force acting on a rope and you pull the end of the rope then the rope will go straight -and it looks straight...
If you have an ON-PLANE lagging force acting on the wrist joint then it too should go into a straight line relationship... in the vertical plane of hammering nails ( assuming you like a vertical nail and are good at hammering) then you have a vertical ON-PLANE lagging force ( hammer head)...
What i understand from Bucket's pics is that these guyslook like good hammering people and the lagging force has presumably pulled their wrist joint in line... but LOOK, LOOK, LOOK at the external appearance ... small cup is apparent...
So it seems that an in line, on plane relationship of a wrist ASSUMING A HAMMER GRIP ( this might not hold for golf grip???) gives a small cup.
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07-18-2007, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Answer the questions Cowgirl. Hammer to the top loaded and ready to strike a nail (or in your case fanger) . . . describe the conditions of your wrist based on Chapter 4 (cocked, uncocked, level, bent, arched, flat, turned, rolled, vertical) . . . . The questions!!!! Focus!!!
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07-18-2007, 09:31 PM
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This may have been mentioned earlier, but, there is difference between hammering with your right hand with a hammer and hitting a ball with a golfclub.
I see the difference as being that with the hammer your right wrist is on top of the handle and with a club it is more to the side.
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