Plummer & Bennett

[kbclements]

Is there any basis in TGM for the swing Plummer & Bennett are promoting in Golf Digest?

[Mike O]

Yes,
Pivot Controlled Hands

[6bmike]

Yes,
Pivot Controlled Hands

ZING !!!!!

[Mike O]

I hear ya, though I wouldn't classify it as a Zing! To me, that would imply that I was firing an arrow- attacking with some passionate emotion. Actually the intent was quite the opposite in that regard . My emotional response to the original question was something like "OH OH - Here we go!" as the question seems to tee up the ball for a Zing! I thought the Pivot Controlled Hands was one of the most non-emotional of all the possible answers. A) It's in the book, B) It is an option, a choice and C) based on the article which was focused on body positions and motion with little to any discussion regarding - clubshaft, clubhead, clubface -it appeared to me to be just a factual statement.

That said, the second level of analysis regarding how much a Zing! it was, would depend on how you defined Pivot Controlled Hands and how much negativity you attached to the concept.

If you were Homer Kelley and you wanted the answer to have NO ZING at all, then you might say that the purpose and intent of the Golfing Machine book was to categorize any and all golf movements. Therefore the answer to the question would be "Not only is there "any" basis in TGM for that swing - but actually there is "every" basis for that Swing in TGM."

Signed

Zinger

[cpwindow4]

I hear ya, though I wouldn't classify it as a Zing! To me, that would imply that I was firing an arrow- attacking with some passionate emotion. Actually the intent was quite the opposite in that regard . My emotional response to the original question was something like "OH OH - Here we go!" as the question seems to tee up the ball for a Zing! I thought the Pivot Controlled Hands was one of the most non-emotional of all the possible answers. A) It's in the book, B) It is an option, a choice and C) based on the article which was focused on body positions and motion with little to any discussion regarding - clubshaft, clubhead, clubface -it appeared to me to be just a factual statement.

That said, the second level of analysis regarding how much a Zing! it was, would depend on how you defined Pivot Controlled Hands and how much negativity you attached to the concept.

If you were Homer Kelley and you wanted the answer to have NO ZING at all, then you might say that the purpose and intent of the Golfing Machine book was to categorize any and all golf movements. Therefore the answer to the question would be "Not only is there "any" basis in TGM for that swing - but actually there is "every" basis for that Swing in TGM."

Signed

Zinger

Very nice Mr O. golf is full of choices

[6bmike]

I hear ya, though I wouldn't classify it as a Zing! To me, that would imply that I was firing an arrow- attacking with some passionate emotion. Actually the intent was quite the opposite in that regard . My emotional response to the original question was something like "OH OH - Here we go!" as the question seems to tee up the ball for a Zing! I thought the Pivot Controlled Hands was one of the most non-emotional of all the possible answers. A) It's in the book, B) It is an option, a choice and C) based on the article which was focused on body positions and motion with little to any discussion regarding - clubshaft, clubhead, clubface -it appeared to me to be just a factual statement.

That said, the second level of analysis regarding how much a Zing! it was, would depend on how you defined Pivot Controlled Hands and how much negativity you attached to the concept.

If you were Homer Kelley and you wanted the answer to have NO ZING at all, then you might say that the purpose and intent of the Golfing Machine book was to categorize any and all golf movements. Therefore the answer to the question would be "Not only is there "any" basis in TGM for that swing - but actually there is "every" basis for that Swing in TGM."

Signed

Zinger

Zing was an attempt at some Humor. Something I was never good at online for some reason. Among other things it seems.

I think many have been wondering where on the pecking order the Hands play in the S&T Stroke.

I think for a young grasshopper of TGM, the discernment and perceptiveness of a Hands Controlled Pivot is of the First Order- even before the Imperatives and should remain the foundation for everything else.

And even though the Pivot controls the Hands on the Back Swing of the S&T Plummer and Bennett Golf Stroke, the pivot on the Down Stroke allows the Hands to complete its assigned task. I would like to know more about the Hands in this stroke. David Orr, an instructor who I put way on top of my list, knows this golf stroke well and replied with a wonderful post to Lynn and Regiger on a similar thread. Lot of things to ponder. Homer built a great Machine- it can stand to be pushed to its limits.

[12 piece bucket]

I hear ya, though I wouldn't classify it as a Zing! To me, that would imply that I was firing an arrow- attacking with some passionate emotion. Actually the intent was quite the opposite in that regard . My emotional response to the original question was something like "OH OH - Here we go!" as the question seems to tee up the ball for a Zing! I thought the Pivot Controlled Hands was one of the most non-emotional of all the possible answers. A) It's in the book, B) It is an option, a choice and C) based on the article which was focused on body positions and motion with little to any discussion regarding - clubshaft, clubhead, clubface -it appeared to me to be just a factual statement.

That said, the second level of analysis regarding how much a Zing! it was, would depend on how you defined Pivot Controlled Hands and how much negativity you attached to the concept.

If you were Homer Kelley and you wanted the answer to have NO ZING at all, then you might say that the purpose and intent of the Golfing Machine book was to categorize any and all golf movements. Therefore the answer to the question would be "Not only is there "any" basis in TGM for that swing - but actually there is "every" basis for that Swing in TGM."

Signed

Zinger

I'm duck taping the pillows in the trunk of the car . . . I'll be by to "pick you up."

[Rhythm]

Here are a couple swings from you tube. Alignments look pretty good. Stationary head.

[Delaware Golf]

The down the line shot is a good example of a Top Arc and Angled delivery path a la pivot controlled hand. PING.............


DG

[Loren]

I'm duck taping the pillows in the trunk of the car . . . I'll be by to "pick you up."

What is "duck tape"? Anything like "duct tape"? Or is it just for ducks?
Oh, wait, "down pillows".

(How do you get down from an elephant? You don't. You get down from a duck.)