Advanced quiz question for you all....

[Mathew]

First of all the graphics are outstanding...I believe you took the vague and incomplete statement as a peronal attack...which it was not...as stated by my esteemed colleague Mike O...I am not the only one here that is still not sure what you are getting at...Yes...I see the lever asssembly or left arm flying wedge or #3 accumulator..which are all different ways of viewing the same thing in a different context...Yes I see the Plane...But why are you trying to demonstrate with the red thing perpendicular to the plane?..What part of Jens body is this plane?...Open eyes, open ears, open mind...Let's fill it!!!

I didn't take anything as a personal attack - don't worry...lol

When no.3 is directly facing the plane they are parallel. But then the question was - where are they parallel. Ive drawn this third plane (Jen's Plane) and you can see that this parallel relationship by means of being vertical to the third plane (Jen's Plane). Now its about defining that third plane(Jen's plane).

[Mathew]

Not sure I got the full meaning of the graphic, but what I see is the red plane representing the perpendicular(to the plane of the left arm assembly) plane of the left wrist hinge pin, so the motion would be horizontal/parallel to the inclined plae of the left arm assembly until the swivel starts, and then the red plane would have to rotate to the finish position. Of course I could have completely misunderstood the graphic entirely.....

G2M

Getting warm with one part "what I see is the red plane representing the perpendicular(to the plane of the left arm assembly) plane of the left wrist hinge pin"

The left arm does a play a role in finding this third plane..

Just keep thinking about geometrical alignments and relationships - this is what this thread is all about and trying to get you to think 'out of the book' and start taking Homer Kelleys alignments and understanding them....

[Mike O]

Looks like to me he's saying that the #3 Accumulator and it's flat left wrist are VERTICAL to the selected Plane . . .

Let's talk about Eldrick now . . . 18 majors??? Who cares!!!

Our Hero is back!! Ya - We're talking about you Bucket!

[Mike O]

Yup the green plane is the acc no.3 plane.

The accumulator no.3 plane goes through the inclined plane at an angle - heres a side question for you ... why does it go through the inclined plane at an angle....

Because the left arm / shoulder isn't on plane.

Tell me we're not going to have a "engineer guided thread" - you know the kind that take 200 posts to get to the point! (West Coast LOL)-

Please clarify- did you say that the #3 accumulator plane was parallel to the swing plane but then it also goes through the swing plane at an angle? I know what I know- just trying to find out what you know- then maybe I'll change what I know or add to it.

Also, it would be nice if you walked through and described in words your graphic. I want to make sure that you're referencing the human golfer or the simple machine in 1-L- as they are different.

Thanks,

Mike O.

[Mathew]

Because the left arm / shoulder isn't on plane.

Tell me we're not going to have a "engineer guided thread" - you know the kind that take 200 posts to get to the point! (West Coast LOL)-

Please clarify- did you say that the #3 accumulator plane was parallel to the swing plane but then it also goes through the swing plane at an angle? I know what I know- just trying to find out what you know- then maybe I'll change what I know or add to it.

Also, it would be nice if you walked through and described in words your graphic. I want to make sure that you're referencing the human golfer or the simple machine in 1-L- as they are different.

Thanks,

Mike O.

Thats right - accumulator 3 is one of the left arm planes !

Maybe I could send an audio clip to Baggar where I could actually talk you all through everything but I still want people to think first....

I know the difference - 1-L doesn't have an accumulator no.3 for starters.... the very thing that we are discussing...

We're getting warm to the right answer though.. Besides I have more questions for you all to follow this one...lol

Re - clarification - When accumulator no.3 has turned towards the plane so that they directly face each other they will be parallel in reference to Jen's plane. Accumulator no.3's plane goes through the inclined plane from above.

[golf2much]

"When no.3 is directly facing the plane they are parallel. But then the question was - where are they parallel. Ive drawn this third plane (Jen's Plane) and you can see that this parallel relationship by means of being vertical to the third plane (Jen's Plane). Now its about defining that third plane(Jen's plane)."

If I understand correctly, Jen's plane would be the plane in which the #3acc operates, up or down to the inclined swing plane, controlled by the right forearm and left arm checkrein action. In a swing with no shift, #3 whould have no movement with respect to Jen's Plane.

G2M

[Bagger Lance]

Mathew,

In your view does the #3 accumulator transition to the plane of the left wristcock motion #2?
Are you keeping them distinct and seperate, or blending?
Swinging, hitting, or does it matter?

Just curious.

Thanks,

Bagger

[Mathew]

Mathew,

In your view does the #3 accumulator transition to the plane of the left wristcock motion #2?
Are you keeping them distinct and seperate, or blending?
Swinging, hitting, or does it matter?

Just curious.

Thanks,

Bagger

The left wristcock motion per the left flying wedge works in the plane of accumulator no.3. They are completely interchangable terms - plane of the left wristcock motion and accumulator no.3 plane. When the choice is presented, I use a term that I believe best fits when describing relationships.

This has nothing to do with hitting or swinging. Merely relationships of geometric alignments.

[neil]

Looks like to me he's saying that the #3 Accumulator and it's flat left wrist are VERTICAL to the selected Plane . . .

Let's talk about Eldrick now . . . 18 majors??? Who cares!!!

...........who ....car...es....#$%^&*()__

[neil]

That is a major.............................