Over the top cure?
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08-04-2006, 11:34 AM
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Same problem for me with the short irons....
Smooth,
I had the same problem; pulling the short irons only. Turns out that I was bending the left wrist at impact (ok, the problem that most ams have). This after a year of working hard on FLW and BRW. But, in my case (and maybe yours) it was because the short irons are the heaviest, and therefore the breakdown becomes "easier". Also, (again in my case) because we think "it's just a wedge" we sometimes don't finish the swing, and quit. What finally worked wonders for me was to make sure I finished the swing, along with a determined roll of the left forearm, a horizontal hinge.
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08-04-2006, 11:45 PM
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08-06-2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by smooth
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Hi all, firstly thanks for a great site...
I'm fighting an over the top move in my downswing (on video my right shoulder moves *out* ever so slightly instead of *down*). This is enough to cause a shank in the short irons or pulls
After reading around here i know that the right shoulder has to go down, what is the best way to train this when you've been used to it going out for so long (been playing with it 15 years or more i guess) (again it's only a small move maybe an inch or so)
Drills etc more than welcome !!
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I’ve read through all the posts in this thread and see that nobody has really addressed the root cause. OTT is caused by inadequate weight transfer. With the feet touching (as a drill for balance) OTT is almost impossible. Once the feet are separated, we have two axes (plural of axis) to deal with, the backswing axis over the right foot, and the downswing axis over the left foot, separated by the weightSHIFT. Starting the downswing over the wrong axis invariably leads to OTT and other problems.
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08-06-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Weightshift
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I’ve read through all the posts in this thread and see that nobody has really addressed the root cause. OTT is caused by inadequate weight transfer.
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What's the root cause of the "inadequate weight transfer"?
anyone?....
Bueller?
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08-06-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Finney
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What's the root cause of the "inadequate weight transfer"?
anyone?....
Bueller?
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Inadequate knowledge of the golf swing 
Last edited by Weightshift : 08-06-2006 at 03:13 PM.
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08-06-2006, 03:50 PM
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Look at this weight transfer!
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08-06-2006, 06:44 PM
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Clubhead was movin up there.
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08-06-2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
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Clubhead was movin up there.
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Yes.
What's your point?
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08-06-2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Finney
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What's the root cause of the "inadequate weight transfer"?
anyone?....
Bueller?
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What is it Mike?
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08-06-2006, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Weightshift
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I’ve read through all the posts in this thread and see that nobody has really addressed the root cause. OTT is caused by inadequate weight transfer. With the feet touching (as a drill for balance) OTT is almost impossible. Once the feet are separated, we have two axes (plural of axis) to deal with, the backswing axis over the right foot, and the downswing axis over the left foot, separated by the weightSHIFT. Starting the downswing over the wrong axis invariably leads to OTT and other problems.
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When i use the 'right foot back' drill i don't come OTT - i'm thinking because i can see a nice big alley way from the top back down to the ball (i.e. right hip is not in the way). Is this still related to weightshift? i think my OTT is subconciously avoiding the elbow/hip collision because i'm definately not intending on doing it.
When i think about the pivot or weightshift however i tend to get to much swaying and leg drive going on....
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