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11-16-2005, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hue
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Bill. I don't have a high opinion of Leadbetter but have you got any idea of "His" logic behind wanting to reduce the amount of accumulator lag in Howell's swing. when you say "lean". Do you mean forward lean of the shaft at impact? What is Leadbetter trying to achieve by reducing that.
At the Open at St George's I got a job as a spotter. I was standing in the fenced off area between the spectator stand and the players on the practice ground(Press only area) . Howell was spraying his driver all over the place while being taught by Leadbetter he was getting really angry. There was another spotter a few yards from me directly behind him an Irish guy called Eanna . Howell stopped hitting balls walked to the fence and semi shouted at him "Have you got a problem , have you got a problem" I guess he was looking for an excuse for his poor performance. It crossed my mind to say " He has not got a problem mate but you have . That useless coach ." I kept my mouth shut but have wondered what the outcome would have been if I had said that.
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I saw Charley's swing after a de-lagging. I think he had 1 degree forward lean with a sand wedge. The instructor(G.S.E.D.) asked him why he was doing that... he said, that's what his other instructor wanted.
The G.S.E.D. put the lag(#2) right back in there. As I recall...he was able to get it back quite quickly. An obvious difference of opinion on the LAG.
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11-18-2005, 10:01 PM
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Lynn Blake Certified Master Instructor
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The laser
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Originally Posted by hue
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Ted: Thanks for that. So am I correct in thinking that the laser should point slightly outwards and above the base line in the followthrough about 1 1/2" or so? Can you describe precisely how you should use the laser in the post impact stages of the swing? I want to get this right.
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No, it's the sweetspot that should trace the line, not the hosel. The sweetspot should not be outside the baseline. The line of pull (#3 pressure point to sweetspot) traces the baseline of the plane. 1-L #5 and #6 have to be understood in context.
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11-18-2005, 10:20 PM
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Lag PRESSURE
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Originally Posted by lagster
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I saw Charley's swing after a de-lagging. I think he had 1 degree forward lean with a sand wedge. The instructor(G.S.E.D.) asked him why he was doing that... he said, that's what his other instructor wanted.
The G.S.E.D. put the lag(#2) right back in there. As I recall...he was able to get it back quite quickly. An obvious difference of opinion on the LAG.
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There are many definitions floating around about lag, to which I was subjected in my own quest. Many misconceptions which include ideas of accumulator lag or forcing a lack of rhythm. Can anyone say, "left arm flying wedge?"
Lynn Blake explained lag pressure to me the way that Homer meant and the way that Homer explained it to him. I no longer like to see the word lag without being followed by the word pressure. Lag Pressure, lag Pressure, lag Pressure, lag Pressure. Now, I feel better.
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11-19-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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There are many definitions floating around about lag, to which I was subjected in my own quest. Many misconceptions which include ideas of accumulator lag or forcing a lack of rhythm. Can anyone say, "left arm flying wedge?"
Lynn Blake explained lag pressure to me the way that Homer meant and the way that Homer explained it to him. I no longer like to see the word lag without being followed by the word pressure. Lag Pressure, lag Pressure, lag Pressure, lag Pressure. Now, I feel better.
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Can you give us the explanation of lag pressure that Yoda gave you? Or is it posted some were on the forum and can you point me to it thanks.
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11-24-2005, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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It has been said that Brad Faxon has "too much lag," and that de-lagging him some would help him. I'm pretty sure at one time he did try to de-lag his swing.
What do you think of this? Have you ever seen a(rare) case of too much #2 Accumulator Lag in one's standard procedure, or do you believe this is possible?
Be kind to one another!
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Lagster...
When we talk of lag, I assume we mean lag pressure and not necessarily max accumulator #2.
Now - can we have too much lag pressure?
Damn right we can! If you create too much lag pressure, you may not be able to sustain it. See 1-D, 2nd paragraph and 6-C-1-A, 3rd paragraph.
Sustain the lag.
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11-24-2005, 08:46 AM
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Lag
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Originally Posted by phillygolf
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Lagster...
When we talk of lag, I assume we mean lag pressure and not necessarily max accumulator #2.
Now - can we have too much lag pressure?
Damn right we can! If you create too much lag pressure, you may not be able to sustain it. See 1-D, 2nd paragraph and 6-C-1-A, 3rd paragraph.
Sustain the lag.
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In the early days before the fog was lifted by Lynn, the word 'sustain' gave me a bad concept. It meant to me that I had to keep something, namely accumulator lag. I didn't understand that it was keeping a constant pressure against the shaft. I thought it was keeping the clubhead behind. It was a bad concept for me.
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11-25-2005, 11:49 AM
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Do you think that has to do with you being a Hitter Ted?
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11-25-2005, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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In the early days before the fog was lifted by Lynn, the word 'sustain' gave me a bad concept. It meant to me that I had to keep something, namely accumulator lag. I didn't understand that it was keeping a constant pressure against the shaft. I thought it was keeping the clubhead behind. It was a bad concept for me.
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Me too YodasLuke!!!
When I first got into golf, I thought lag was accumulator #2 maxed out! Boy was I ever wrong!
Thank you Homer!!!
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11-25-2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by phillygolf
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Me too YodasLuke!!!
When I first got into golf, I thought lag was accumulator #2 maxed out! Boy was I ever wrong!
Thank you Homer!!!
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How did you boys make the transition from Accumlator Lag to LAG PRESSURE???
Thanks!
B
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11-26-2005, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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How did you boys make the transition from Accumlator Lag to LAG PRESSURE???
Thanks!
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12 piece...
Still working on it!! But at least I am on the right path. No more holding the wristcock forever!
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